Quote from: Starglyte;792504Wasn't it posted on the updates for kickstarter? If its the one I was think it was, its the Empress knighting someone from the throne.

Yep. It was a kickstarter teaser/update. Her Redness has a dress with a split up the leg, another problematic element.

Quote from: James Gillen;792506Type 2 diabetes is no joke. Diabetes with Exalted disease rules is even worse.

JG

The seeming real life "Cult of the Empress" is another part of Exalted fanbase I never got. It reminds of the old World of Darkness days when the NPCs were supposed to be far more cool, powerful interesting and important than those silly buffoons the players created.

Pic here.  https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/002/741/933/89fd7141275a2abe7925cba46c4dce1b_large.jpg?1413332383

For the record, I think it's a woman kneeling, Ketchup is in the background, and yes, Red has a fat thigh.

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For the record, I think it's a woman kneeling, Ketchup is in the background, and yes, Red has a fat thigh.

Thank you!

Yeah, I think the supplicant is a women (or pretty darn effeminate man). As for the fat thigh thing, I think the artist was going for muscular or athletic and didn't quite pull of it so I can see why someone would read it as plump. I also don't see her gown as "slinky" or even that provocative given the nature of the setting. It shows a little leg in certain positions, its not like it slit up to waist and about to give away all her secrets at the slightest motion. I could see that causing some concern but what she has now? Not really. I've seen many women wear similar things at formal parties and, given that she's supposed to be social powerhouse why wouldn't she wear flattering clothing. Her appearance and sexuality would be one of the tools in her kit.

Honestly, I wouldn't have a big issue if it was slinky aside from it seeming out of context considering the rest of the picture which seems formal and ritualistic. If it depicted a more relaxed social gathering or something. Why not? For that matter not all cultures had the same nudity taboos as the modern western world.

Because social justice types feed on their own without a better target.

Yeah, the thigh is big, but what bothers me more is the hip attachment. Whether it's a woman or man kneeling, good lord is that a wide ass.  Just very bad body proportion work overall.

Quote from: CRKrueger;792526Yeah, the thigh is big, but what bothers me more is the hip attachment. Whether it's a woman or man kneeling, good lord is that a wide ass.  Just very bad body proportion work overall.

It doesn't help the the kneeling figure is on one knee, with the other extended. That doesn't match the pose given the posture. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter, it'll either get pulled with some bs explanation or forgotten when something else comes along.

It's really not a bad piece, but I'm a cis shit, so my opinion doesn't matter.

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For the record, I think it's a woman kneeling, Ketchup is in the background, and yes, Red has a fat thigh.

I'd hit it.

Quote from: James Gillen;792492Hence one of the other ironies of Exalted being "taken over by the Outrage Brigade": One of the recurring premises of Fantasy is that most societies are not run as inclusive parliamentary democracies with any sensitivity to gender or ethnic minorities.  The exceptions would be mainly the kind of literature that inspired the Blue Rose RPG.

JG

You can have a gender-balanced society which is also full of exploitative dicks.  That's pretty much the basis for the Realm -- you have a society run by a woman, where women possess slightly more political and economic power than men, and yet it's still full of evil spoilers who are raiding the Threshold like there's no tomorrow, where it's effectively a slave state run on the back of conquered peoples, and where social class is an extreme limiter on someone's outcomes unless an accident of genetic gives them mystic superpowers.  

Also, the term "ethnic minorities" is pretty meaningless in Creation, as it would be in real world Antiquity.  Modern notions of race are products of slavery and the New World.  On the other hand, the ancient world was more than happy to find ways to divide one another up and use it as a reason to split each other's skulls without dividing one another up based on which part of the color wheel one belonged to.

The Egyptians enslaving the Hebrews, the Hebrews enslaving crap tons of others, the Romans enslaving fucking everybody. Yeah, pretty sure race and religion was the basis for most of that crap, so it's hardly a New World (let's be honest and just say white) idea to separate folks along those lines.

EDIT: Just to throw a few more in there, the Persians, Babylonians, Greeks, Byzantines, Chinese, Mongols, etc. It usually boils down to, you are us/civilized/speak our language/couldn't fight back. Most of which is racism, except that last one, and even them, an argument can be made.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;792631The Egyptians enslaving the Hebrews, the Hebrews enslaving crap tons of others, the Romans enslaving fucking everybody. Yeah, pretty sure race and religion was the basis for most of that crap, so it's hardly a New World (let's be honest and just say white) idea to separate folks along those lines.

EDIT: Just to throw a few more in there, the Persians, Babylonians, Greeks, Byzantines, Chinese, Mongols, etc. It usually boils down to, you are us/civilized/speak our language/couldn't fight back. Most of which is racism, except that last one, and even them, an argument can be made.

It really wasn't that simple in antiquity. Race wasn't a factor at all, most became slaves through war, piracy or debt. Anyone could be a slave, nor was anyone condemned to slavery for life, simply because of the colour of their skin.

There are different kinds of slavery, I'd suggest you read up on the differences before making those sorts of assertions.

Quote from: Werekoala;792558I'd hit it.

That was my first thought, too.

Quote from: Kiero;792635It really wasn't that simple in antiquity. Race wasn't a factor at all, most became slaves through war, piracy or debt. Anyone could be a slave, nor was anyone condemned to slavery for life, simply because of the colour of their skin.

There are different kinds of slavery, I'd suggest you read up on the differences before making those sorts of assertions.

OK. I'm gonna give this one to you, just because I don't think we'd agree, and it's not important enough to wrapped around the axle over.

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For the record, I think it's a woman kneeling, Ketchup is in the background, and yes, Red has a fat thigh.

So the SJWs are against BBWs.

JG

Quote from: Future Villain Band;792564Also, the term "ethnic minorities" is pretty meaningless in Creation, as it would be in real world Antiquity.  

Well, that's kinda my point.  They're judging historical recreations and outright fantasy realms on the basis of 21st Century college mores.

JG