Well, i guess that's how OPP wants to work. Sad.

And if John had any integrity, he would just step down as lead designer and give the reigns to someone else. Stop "blackmailing" the fans of Ex3E with your begging projects, it's embarrassing.

Quote from: Snowman0147;779218You couldn't let this die at the 5d6 damage books?

Saw something interesting, posted it. No one is forcing you to read it or post to the thread bump it up further.

I was also joking.

Quote from: Snowman0147;779275I was also joking.

Bah. I say Bah and piffle!

Quote from: Snowman0147;779218You couldn't let this die at the 5d6 damage books?

It's alive-
IT'S ALIVE!!!

I really hope that there are not actually 900 charms in the core book or that that number at least includes some sample affects for other beings and Exalts. Every time I see that number quoted my jaw practically drops.

Apparently its true or if its an exaggeration its not much of one

Quote from: hatewheel;18174978War and Sail. The corebook only has very basic coverage for this. We plan to do more later. There's enough there for you to have fun, though.

I wrote around 900 Charms for the Solar set. I can only recall one that directly interacts with siege weaponry off the top of my head, not counting Excellencies.

Maybe instead of Charm Combos they should come up with a Charm Macro.

JG

Quote from: Anglachel;779226Well, i guess that's how OPP wants to work. Sad.

And if John had any integrity, he would just step down as lead designer and give the reigns to someone else. Stop "blackmailing" the fans of Ex3E with your begging projects, it's embarrassing.

I agree, but then the general standard of professionalism hasn't exactly been high. We've already talked about the piss-poor marketing approach.

Quote from: Nexus;779191Nibbler does have a point. No so much the medical tests, but student loan payments?

Yes, student loans are awful.

But given that's the nature of things, if only there were some thing that Onyx Path could use as justification to give him money. Maybe - and I'm just throwing this out here! - maybe he could get paid, for writing an RPG rulebook?

Nah, it'd never work.

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900 of a thing in a game is too many. Sounds like needless complexity for the sake of it.

I'm not unsympathetic to the low pay in the rpg industry but, OTOH, no one is forced to be an rpg writer or use it as the their primary source of income. In the end, its a hobby industry. It probably isn't even going to support pays rates competitive with the "real world". But working in it is a choice and the ongoing attitude of "we can do anything and act in anyway because we're poor oppressed rpg writers, pity us" I'm getting from the Exalted team is really starting to grate. And I have to wonder if some of the could make it in the professional world which expects professional results and behavior.

Being frightened and in a desperate perhaps mortal quandary is one thing, milking the good will and support of strangers to pay back your loans is another, IMO. Its legal and if people want to denote they're doing if of their own free will but it seems tacky. And while it might now (probably isn't) holding the game hostage in any sense, I can see where it might feel that way and the feeling might even be something banked on.

Quote from: Ladybird;779853Yes, student loans are awful.

But given that's the nature of things, if only there were some thing that Onyx Path could use as justification to give him money. Maybe - and I'm just throwing this out here! - maybe he could get paid, for writing an RPG rulebook?

Nah, it'd never work.

You're assuming that Onyx Path even have the money lying around, which may well not be the case. Yeah, they had that Kickstarter, but a substantial portion of that money is going to be ringfenced for the purpose of printing and sending out the Kickstarter rewards. They may have already paid the writers, only for the medical expenses to eat up John's cut. Who knows?

Quote from: Warthur;779865You're assuming that Onyx Path even have the money lying around, which may well not be the case. Yeah, they had that Kickstarter, but a substantial portion of that money is going to be ringfenced for the purpose of printing and sending out the Kickstarter rewards. They may have already paid the writers, only for the medical expenses to eat up John's cut. Who knows?

In a civilised country, there would be some kind of nationalised health service for him to rely on. It is shameful that someone in a supposed first-world democracy can be bankrupted simply due to part of their body stopping working.

Student loans are crap, but the american healthcare system is unforgivable.

900 charms?  Holy shit that is way too much.  I was thinking ten charms per skill which means 250 charms in total.  Point is that is going to make long time fans and newbies look at the book and be intimidated by the sheer amount of charms.  There is a reason why many people in DnD stick with none spell casting classes.  They really don't want to go through with all those spells while in Exalted you have to go through all those charms.

Edit:  I thought the whole reason for 3.0 was to streamlined the game.  I guess the staff doesn't know what streamlined means.  Then again a theory just pop up in my mind.  I think the writers know that Exalted 3.0 is going to fail so they are cramming as much info that they can get away with.

Quote from: Snowman0147;779893900 charms?  Holy shit that is way too much.  I was thinking ten charms per skill which means 250 charms in total.  Point is that is going to make long time fans and newbies look at the book and be intimidated by the sheer amount of charms.  There is a reason why many people in DnD stick with none spell casting classes.  They really don't want to go through with all those spells while in Exalted you have to go through all those charms.

And that's 900 or so charms before martial arts styles (there are 11) and Evocations. And whatever other new things are included.

The story seems to be allot of those charms are upgrades to a previous charm that add functionality or boost power but don't do something totally new.

I have heard that characters can start off with as many of 20 charms but I'm not  certain if that's the case.  

QuoteEdit:  I thought the whole reason for 3.0 was to streamlined the game.  I guess the staff doesn't know what streamlined means.  Then again a theory just pop up in my mind.  I think the writers know that Exalted 3.0 is going to fail so they are cramming as much info that they can get away with.

Oh but it is streamlined and simplified. The Developers said so and the Play testers agreed! But they can't tell you how. NDA and all that but saying otherwise is just whining and speaking out of turn

*shrug*