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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Snowman0147

#405
July 10, 2014, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;767454I just realized that I totally miss read his question. Sorry for responding to a question that wasn't actually asked. My mistake!

Oh I thought you are defending him.  I am sorry about that.

Paper Monkey

#406
July 11, 2014, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: Nexus;767447For me, its odd that people reading a description of an ability that makes the character a superlative lover immediately went to rape in their heads...

I think my big issue with the conclusion they drew was that, because rape might have been possible if you took the most extreme reading you could (which could be done with a lot of mechanics in a lot of games), it was also permissible, and that if someone chose to abuse this mechanic and their fellow players in this way, it's not the player's fault but the Dev's fault.

That was an incredibly off-putting conclusion to see.

Snowman0147

#407
July 11, 2014, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: Paper Monkey;767682I think my big issue with the conclusion they drew was that, because rape might have been possible if you took the most extreme reading you could (which could be done with a lot of mechanics in a lot of games), it was also permissible, and that if someone chose to abuse this mechanic and their fellow players in this way, it's not the player's fault but the Dev's fault.

That was an incredibly off-putting conclusion to see.

So your telling me that these social justice trolls are thinking up ways to rape each other when they view each charm?  That is a fuck up and ironic at the same time.

Paper Monkey

#408
July 11, 2014, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Snowman0147;767689So your telling me that these social justice trolls are thinking up ways to rape each other when they view each charm?  That is a fuck up and ironic at the same time.

The argument was basically, "There's nothing in this charm that requires that sort of thing, and if you use it that way, that's really on you as the player for being a sociopath" followed by the same people arguing against the charm stating that there's nothing wrong with pointing out that it was the optimal way to play (and I wasn't able to see any argument that proved this) and that exploiting bugs in a mechanic isn't the player's fault but the person who left the bugs in there.

Which, again, sort of falls flat when 'the bug' in question nevertheless entails shit like raping people?

Snowman0147

#409
July 11, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
If you use a magical ability to rape some one that is on you.  There is no argument about it.  You did the act.

Same can be said that if you use a magical ability to enhance the sex life of your consenting lover and yourself is your doing.  No argument there.  You did the act.

The charm cannot rape, or make sex more enjoyable.  It is the user of that charm that determines the outcome.  The responsibility is on the user.

Though given this is a solar charm and this is set at the time in which the exalted are showing up again I am going to make a guess.  I don't think there is going to be any rape, but there is going to be a a lot of happy consenting people.  After all the solars are the heroes of the setting.

Bedrockbrendan

#410
July 11, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
Quote from: Paper Monkey;767682I think my big issue with the conclusion they drew was that, because rape might have been possible if you took the most extreme reading you could (which could be done with a lot of mechanics in a lot of games), it was also permissible, and that if someone chose to abuse this mechanic and their fellow players in this way, it's not the player's fault but the Dev's fault.

That was an incredibly off-putting conclusion to see.

I once heard a guy used his player's handbook to beat a puppy. Clearlly WOTC is to blame for making it available in hardcover. What other possible use could there be for a 304 page hardcover book other than harming puppies?

Apparition

#411
July 11, 2014, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;767703I once heard a guy used his player's handbook to beat a puppy. Clearlly WOTC is to blame for making it available in hardcover. What other possible use could there be for a 304 page hardcover book other than harming puppies?

Good thing it wasn't HERO.

Snowman0147

#412
July 11, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
Or Pathfinder core book.  Seriously it is over 600 pages.  Nothing like Hero, but that has to pack a punch.

jan paparazzi

#413
July 11, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: Snowman0147;767445Let Holden answer his question.  We are not attacking him so there is no need to defend him.
I am indeed not attacking him. I play WoD games. Like I said, I am just curious.
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Warboss Squee

#414
July 11, 2014, 06:25:18 PM
Quote from: jan paparazzi;767896I am indeed not attacking him. I play WoD games. Like I said, I am just curious.

He stands as the only Exalted person I have even a shred of respect for these days.

TheShadow

#415
July 11, 2014, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: Snowman0147;767710Or Pathfinder core book.  Seriously it is over 600 pages.  Nothing like Hero, but that has to pack a punch.

Actually Pathfinder has almost exactly the same page count as Hero 5e Revised, the famously massive Hero book. Just had to point that out :-)
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Snowman0147

#416
July 11, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: The_Shadow;767953Actually Pathfinder has almost exactly the same page count as Hero 5e Revised, the famously massive Hero book. Just had to point that out :-)

Damn...  Did not know that.  That is a dead dog.

James Gillen

#417
July 12, 2014, 03:08:55 AM
Quote from: Celestial;767707Good thing it wasn't HERO.

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Nexus

#418
August 13, 2014, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: Nibbler;18186340How much more funding is going to be needed for the game to come out?

Another GoFundMe opened up for John Morke yesterday. I donated for the medical expenses issue, but at this point, we're paying student loan payments (and it turned out to be a false alarm on the medical tests anyway).

It feels like the game is being held hostage.

This is the third GoFundMe since the Kickstarter. Exalted has now had four funding drives.

Nibbler does have a point. No so much the medical tests, but student loan payments?
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Snowman0147

#419
August 13, 2014, 12:26:12 PM
You couldn't let this die at the 5d6 damage books?
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