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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Warboss Squee

#375
July 06, 2014, 05:51:57 AM
Quote from: Ladybird;764956But it's not just the printing. It's the art, the writing, the time spent playtesting and bugfixing; none of which is free. The sales are going to be low, so the price needs to be high to get to a reasonable break-even point.

(Whether or not this was a sensible commercial decision, well, I have my doubts.)



OP is a small crew, and pay bumbs were included in that glut of a Kickstarter they did. And trust me, pay per word is not that expensive, nor is art, when you can expext the sales they are.

My best out of my ass estimate is we are looking at roughly 5-10 bucks per book, and it's PoD, and the buyer is eating the shipping.

Hell, dvds are product costed at a quarter a disc, and you pay 20 bucks.

Nexus

#376
July 06, 2014, 02:01:39 PM
This a discussion of some of the material that was leaked on The Roleplay Zone, the actual documents are not there that I know of.

http://www.roleplay.zone/threads/exalted-3e-playtest-leaks-discussion.60770/
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Snowman0147

#377
July 06, 2014, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Warboss Squee;765141My best out of my ass estimate is we are looking at roughly 5-10 bucks per book, and it's PoD, and the buyer is eating the shipping.

Is that black and white, color, or premium?

Warboss Squee

#378
July 07, 2014, 11:17:20 AM
Quote from: Snowman0147;765224Is that black and white, color, or premium?

Color. Unless they are not getting a per 1000 deal wholesale, which they damn well should.  Hell, my people offer discounts per 10,000 and still come ahead, and we're eating the ink and paper costs on top of it. That said, we do newspapers and magazines, but the differences are not the varied.

Well, I take it back, I'm unsure how PoD works money and material wise, but even a limited print run would get them money back if they were even remotely smart about it.

Nexus

#379
July 08, 2014, 11:13:42 AM
Looks like they didn't learn their lesson(s) and put another sex based charm. The reaction appears to be what you'd expect. Am I a bad person for enjoying massive schadenfreude over this?
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warthur

#380
July 08, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
Where is this backlash happening? RPG.net seems placid on the subject at the moment.
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

Ladybird

#381
July 08, 2014, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: Nexus;765982Looks like they didn't learn their lesson(s) and put another sex based charm.

"The Third Exalted Technique : You never need to come out" ?
one two FUCK YOU

Nexus

#382
July 08, 2014, 12:32:21 PM Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 12:50:15 PM by Nexus
The document included a charm which basically made the character such an exquisite lover that their partners were more inclined to have sex with them again and became positively inclined towards the characters so as to be more malleable to their wiles (I imagine that means. Basically a Solar version of Thousand Courtesan Calculations or Celestial Bliss Trick.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Nexus

#383
July 08, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: Warthur;765985Where is this backlash happening? RPG.net seems placid on the subject at the moment.

Yeah, discussion of the leaked material has been put off limits on rpg.net. I've seen a few spots where its come up. This is the biggest I've found so far.

http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/general-exalted-thread.44/page-50

That should be about where it really gets going, give or take.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

crkrueger

#384
July 08, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
750 charms in the playtest?  Aren't charms just one type of power?
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Nexus

#385
July 08, 2014, 04:23:46 PM Last Edit: July 08, 2014, 04:26:31 PM by Nexus
There's Sorcery and Astrology, Invocations (Artifact powers), IIRC.

I doubt there will be much about Astrology in the corebook since its mostly a Sidereal thing. Rumor has it that playtest document also contains some Non Solar charms that are being tested so the actual number in the final work maybe smaller, perhaps quite a bit smaller.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warthur

#386
July 08, 2014, 08:16:36 PM
Quote from: Nexus;766061Yeah, discussion of the leaked material has been put off limits on rpg.net.
Ah, rpg.net: staying relevant and at the cutting edge of RPG discourse by banning discussion of significant news stories.
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

Nexus

#387
July 08, 2014, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Warthur;766194Ah, rpg.net: staying relevant and at the cutting edge of RPG discourse by banning discussion of significant news stories.

Yeah, the song and dance about why it was all right to discuss other pirated material but not THIS pirated material was interesting.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Rincewind1

#388
July 08, 2014, 11:46:55 PM
Quote from: Nexus;766263Yeah, the song and dance about why it was all right to discuss other pirated material but not THIS pirated material was interesting.

Gee wiz, I wonder why. That is the worst crime I level at RPG.net - making me donate to Exalted. I mean sure, it was one dollar, but still.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

James Gillen

#389
July 09, 2014, 12:42:48 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;766264Gee wiz, I wonder why. That is the worst crime I level at RPG.net - making me donate to Exalted. I mean sure, it was one dollar, but still.

"Banned on RPG.net" is the hip thing to put on your cover these days.

JG
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