Quote from: Snowman0147;764225First off are you a abyssal exalted because you certainly pulled some necromancery in this thread?

Joking aside that is six pages of bullshit I just read.  There are a few posts that I can sympathize with.  Mainly those posters that figured out that they should avoid kickstarter and not support Onyx Path projects.  I feel for those few people and fuck those that choose to defend Onyx Path instead of accepting the reality for what it is.

I mean for crying out loud.  The guy who did Stars Without Numbers, Other Dust, and other games is only one man.  You don't see him fucking up on kickstarter.  He should be teaching the exalted team how to handle that.

Yeah I know the world of darkness books are quick in getting done, but the way they are handling exalted is not even funny.  It is a shame and the people of Onyx Path should feel bad about it because they did fuck it up.  Seriously at this point it might be wise to just ditch it.

I see you have figured me out. I'm in fact an Abyssal and this is my beating the horse even after its dead thread. In more seriousness, I just need a place to vent. Since I made this thread to vent and here I am again!

I think its interesting that Rand Brittain complained about Chuubo's Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine also "coming soon" when according to drive thru its been available for purchase since April 6th of this year. After being kickstarted after Exalted was. According to another poster they also got tons of preview materials. Where as the people who have been waiting for Exalted still have jack shit.

Also Chuubo's Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine was apparently written by one person. As far as I can tell.

Quote from: James Gillen;764234Exalted 3: Abyssal Bullshit Rationalization Stance

Pretty much.

Really I can understand people being patient. I cant understand people still being patient with them. But I cant understand people still being patient. Given the glacial rate of development I would be surprised if it comes out before new year.

All I can say at this stage is that I requested a refund for my KS contributions but been summarily ignored so far

Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;764240I think its interesting that Rand Brittain complained about Chuubo's Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine also "coming soon" when according to drive thru its been available for purchase since April 6th of this year. After being kickstarted after Exalted was. According to another poster they also got tons of preview materials. Where as the people who have been waiting for Exalted still have jack shit.

That one confused the hell out of me as I was sure Rand was involved in Chuubo in some way. Certainly he's always come across as being "Jenna Moran Fanboy #1", so can't see how it would be out without him knowing.

For me the main takeaway from the Exalted thread was the guy from OPP explaining that they date they put on their website for Ex3 is completely made up and shouldn't be trusted, and that there's a thread in their forum that explains this so why is anyone paying attention to the date on the front page of their website...

Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;764218http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?730104-Exalted-Is-Third-Edition-EVER-Going-To-Come-Out

Well a new Exalted 3 thread is out. Already the designer and apologists have shown up to talk about how poor they are and how this really just a hobby project (around post 50).

I would be very curious to know where that seven hundred thousand went.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;764325I would be very curious to know where that seven hundred thousand went.

Maybe the God Machine ate it?

Quote from: Warboss Squee;764325I would be very curious to know where that seven hundred thousand went.

I would rather like to know that too. My honest opinion is that someone made a very healthy profit off the whole thing. Who made that profit though I have no clue. The other option is that they are a horribly badly run company and all that money had disappeared into other projects.

Or they miss calculated the costs of this project which wouldn't surprise me either.

Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;764517The other option is that they are a horribly badly run company and all that money had disappeared into other projects.

Which is why I said I think the God Machine ate it.  I think the money went to world of darkness books once shit went down hill.  After all the world of darkness books is their main profit which is really bad for Onyx Path.

Onyx Path only has a license for world of darkness and CCP could very well take it away from them at any moment for any reason.  They hadn't even touch the IPs they do own.  Scion and Trinity IPs need to be work on if Onyx Path really wants to be a independent company in the long run.

Then again seeing how well they handled Exalted the question is do I really want them to touch scion?  From what I seen I really don't.  They hadn't work on their three musketeers set in mars game and failed exalted.  The only good thing  they done are the world of darkness games.  So if they tried to do scion would they have some team that does "whatever" and give it the same treatment that exalted is getting?  A lot to think about.

The thing that puzzles me is why the KS earned so much and was treated as so important. EX3 was going to happen before was announced. The KS was just to fund a bunch of fancy extras.

In all honesty.  Fuck if I know.

Maybe the money was going to be used to pay medical bills?  Hell it could be possible that the kickstarter is their main source of revenue for all I know.  What I do know is there are a lot of angry people who have a right to be angry towards the people who are have a unfinished product in their hands.

Quote from: Nexus;764648The thing that puzzles me is why the KS earned so much and was treated as so important. EX3 was going to happen before was announced. The KS was just to fund a bunch of fancy extras.

That is the company line. EX3 was going to happen no matter what and the kickstarter really was only to get a bunch of fancy extras.

My personal opinion is this is not factually accurate. I suspect the reality is that without the kickstarter the EX3 project would have been dead in the water at this point. I think it would have been abandoned by now as a failed project, due to delays and such. But the kickstarter has kept the product viable.

I also want to point out that despite being a "luxury product" they also put in a tier for preorders. So that kinda undermines there argument that its really just for the fancy extras.

Without the kickstarter Exalted 3.0 would never happen at all.  Onyx Path uses kickstarter to gauge if the game is good enough to even work on.  This is just me making a guess.  I mean if they were selling books well enough they should be able to hire long term writers with all that kickstarter money.  The fact they stick with freelancers might mean the books are not selling that well.

Hell David Hill himself said in Wanton Wicked chat that they increase the price of the books and pdfs because they were not selling a lot.  Don't believe me compare their prices at DriveThruRPG.  I will provide the links for you.

Mummy

God Machine Chronicle

Vampire: The Requiem Strix Chronicles

Demon: The Decent

The only real changer is the new hunter book, but I think that is due to the fact it is a supplement.  If it was a core book I feel like the price would be jack up.

Mortal Remains

Our books aren't selling so lets raise prices?

That's Games Workshop levels of bad marketing right there.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;764760Our books aren't selling so lets raise prices?

That's Games Workshop levels of bad marketing right there.

No shit.  I am not paying 75 dollars for a core book of a single splat.  I can understand if it is like a limited edition book, but this is the common book with unlimited supply.  That is fucking wrong.  The fact the pdf is over twenty dollars is insane.  No reasonably good pdf should ever go past ten dollars.  They are trying to screw their customers.

An Exalted 3E playtester leaked pretty much all the current playtest docs as of Mid-June onto /tg/. So far the reception has been pretty positive.

At the very least, it's clear that the game is being worked on, and that a good deal has gone into it already.

I still haven't found the fucking thing.

You'd think it would be everywhere, but all I find is folks talking about it.