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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Nexus

#240
May 06, 2014, 06:58:35 AM
Quote from: Ladybird;747078It's not for us. It's for people who are already excited, and just want to be told "yes, it's still awesome, you should keep on being excited".

That's going to work for the really hardcore fans. But those are sales they pretty much had from the jump. IME, its starting to piss off less enthusiastic fans and people worried about getting burned again which would I'd think would be the market base they'd want to court.
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DisgruntleFairy

#241
May 06, 2014, 07:07:53 AM
Quote from: Nexus;747169That's going to work for the really hardcore fans. But those are sales they pretty much had from the jump. IME, its starting to piss off less enthusiastic fans and people worried about getting burned again which would I'd think would be the market base they'd want to court.

I was very excited at first. But the "marketing" strategy, the delays, and lack of information over all has slowly but steadily pushed me into the "meh" category. It's just I'm not sure there will be a game every finished at this rate. I'm not sure it will be a game I want when it is finished.

After all the fact its taken them 7 months longer than expected doesn't exactly suggest that it will be a terribly accessible game. It suggests its going to be a overly complex fucking nightmare.

Nexus

#242
May 06, 2014, 07:23:07 AM
Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;747170I was very excited at first. But the "marketing" strategy, the delays, and lack of information over all has slowly but steadily pushed me into the "meh" category. It's just I'm not sure there will be a game every finished at this rate. I'm not sure it will be a game I want when it is finished.

After all the fact its taken them 7 months longer than expected doesn't exactly suggest that it will be a terribly accessible game. It suggests its going to be a overly complex fucking nightmare.

7 Months? Damn, I hadn't been keeping much track. I didn't know things had been that delayed.

I can understand. I didn't have much of enthusiasm (the fluff changes released so far really left me cold but I was hoping for solid mechanics I could use) but the current marketing approach is off putting.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Nexus

#243
May 06, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;747166No, it really isn't. I read over it and I have to say its like looking at a magic 8ball. Actually the 8ball may be more helpful.

It's actually worse than useless. They can't actually answer, well, anything, apparently accept to say "its awesome, you'll love it, trust us!" the same tune that's been going for what, a year now?
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Ladybird

#244
May 06, 2014, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: Nexus;747117yeah but this "I know a secret, its awesome but I won't tell!" bullshit is getting old. It IS a hype machine, just an annoying one. You get threads like the current sycophantic praise on the TBP with people kow towing about something they really haven't seen.

I agree with you on this, actually. Develop your damn game, develop it in secret, just don't keep telling us how you are DEVELOPING YOUR GAME IN SECRET.

QuoteI'm not even sure -why- they're being so secretive about it.

Because of how poorly roleplayers react to excerpts of information about NEW new editions of games, when it's divorced of context from the rest of the game. Look at all the arguments about D&D5 at the moment, and people have been playing that for two years already.
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Nexus

#245
May 06, 2014, 09:27:53 AM Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 09:32:15 AM by Nexus
Quote from: Ladybird;747185Because of how poorly roleplayers react to excerpts of information about NEW new editions of games, when it's divorced of context from the rest of the game. Look at all the arguments about D&D5 at the moment, and people have been playing that for two years already.

That is a fair point. But I don't think what they're doing is effective either. It like they're trying to have their cake and eat it too, hyping without revealing. There's also a not insignificant chance it could backfire. To much, too little information could lead some unrealistic expectations (There are some already, IMO) so when the book drops, the shit hitting fan they were trying to avoid happens any way and worse. As you say, if you're going to develop the game quietly, do so but this teasing, "Blindly Praise us!" and non informative hype threads are annoying.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

DisgruntleFairy

#246
May 06, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Quote from: Nexus;7471717 Months? Damn, I hadn't been keeping much track. I didn't know things had been that delayed.

I can understand. I didn't have much of enthusiasm (the fluff changes released so far really left me cold but I was hoping for solid mechanics I could use) but the current marketing approach is off putting.

Well it was originally planed for October of last year. So technically it should be 6 months I suppose.

DisgruntleFairy

#247
May 06, 2014, 09:37:42 AM Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 09:43:35 AM by DisgruntleFairy
Quote from: Nexus;747175It's actually worse than useless. They can't actually answer, well, anything, apparently accept to say "its awesome, you'll love it, trust us!" the same tune that's been going for what, a year now?

Actually, it did say something useful. The person who posted said that they didn't understand the system when they first read over it. I find that hardly a ringing endorsement or something that makes me feel optimistic. The post in question is #5. :P

Quote from: SuddenThunderThe first time I came in contact with the combat rules was me and Death at a burger place, off the cuff conversation without any documents. I didn't understand at all.

Two hours later, with some dice rolling behind me I felt more confident about it.

Quote from: SuddenThunderIn terms of accessibility I'd say it's about the same as it's ever been. 2nd Edition wasn't much different from 1st in that regard and the reason for that is that a lot of the complexity in character creation comes from the wide array of Charms available. I'm not spoiling anything when I say 3rd edition is still going to have a lot of Charms. In terms of variability it's been great. We've been able to make a lot of characters from different sources that we felt accurately reflected the things we were looking for.

Yeah this is post 16 and I have to say if they are trying to make me excited... they are failing.

Warthur

#248
May 06, 2014, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: Nexus;7471717 Months? Damn, I hadn't been keeping much track. I didn't know things had been that delayed.

I can understand. I didn't have much of enthusiasm (the fluff changes released so far really left me cold but I was hoping for solid mechanics I could use) but the current marketing approach is off putting.
Hasn't one of the main developers been gravely ill of late and posting "maybe I am going to die and Exalted will be my tombstone"-type stuff? That'll put a delay on any development process.
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Axiomatic

#249
May 06, 2014, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: Warthur;747199Hasn't one of the main developers been gravely ill of late and posting "maybe I am going to die and Exalted will be my tombstone"-type stuff? That'll put a delay on any development process.

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Snowman0147

#250
May 06, 2014, 01:52:56 PM
He should had fucking quit and focus on recovery.  Seriously anyone who puts his life in line over a role playing game is a fucking idiot.  I don't care if I have to wait even longer for game because a writer had to quit.  Real life before gaming people.

Dodger

#251
May 06, 2014, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: SuddenThunder3rd edition is still going to have a lot of Charms.
So... Even twinkier?
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Starglyte

#252
May 06, 2014, 06:22:08 PM
Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;747188Well it was originally planed for October of last year. So technically it should be 6 months I suppose.

The original date was December of 2012.

I fell off the Exalted bandwagon sometime last year. I remember being really excited for first edition(even bought both the limited edition and normal core book) and was doubly excited when 2nd edition was announced. Now the only time I notice 3rd edition is when these threads pop up or I get a backer's update. meh

Novastar

#253
May 06, 2014, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: Nexus;747175It's actually worse than useless. They can't actually answer, well, anything, apparently accept to say "its awesome, you'll love it, trust us!" the same tune that's been going for what, a year now?
So...every Palladium Press Release, ever? :p
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Snowman0147

#254
May 06, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: Dodger;747261So... Even twinkier?

Yeah I thought the whole point of third edition was to streamlined the game to make it easier to play.  Just what in the hell are they doing.
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