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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Reposted from TBP. Not my work but could be useful to anyone interested in the game.

Quote from: Irked;20031788I posted these on the OPP forums a while back. They're based off the backer release, not the final, but the mechanical differences are pretty slim.

This is a list of generic rules clarifications, new keywords, etc. It includes similar clarifications to those in Roadie's document (how do counterattacks work, how do you clash a multiattack, etc.), though I resolve some of 'em differently. The latter two documents borrow verbiage and keywords from this one.

This is a complete rewrite of the Ex3 Solar Charm set for mechanical clarity. In the vast majority of cases the effects of the Charms are the same, just... less ambiguous; where I've changed the effects in some way (i.e., by adding a new keyword, choosing one of several possible interpretations, or - in a few cases - reworking its effect), I've added the tag "MODIFIED." The only area to be heavily changed is Craft, but a handful of specific effects (i.e., God King's Shrike) got tweaked as well. (The Craft changes are significant, but spelled out in the first document above.)

I've also tagged some Charms as "OPTIONAL" or "REMOVED." In my games, a player who has the prerequisites for an Optional Charm may ignore that Charm in any other effect's prerequisites. He may also purchase it as normal. A player who has the prereqs for a Removed Charm may ignore it in other prereq chains in the same way, but cannot purchase it. These tags have no effect beyond my own games and can be ignored.

This is an updating of the 2e Lunar set to 3e rules. It is specifically not a reimagining of the Lunar set, or a Terrifying Argent Witches-style ground-up rebuild; it's just a straight port to 3e logic for someone interested in playing a Lunar or running one as an NPC.

(I'm also very, very interested in feedback on any of these.)
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So I'm settled on using Qwixalted rather than the monstrous rulebook. My only problem is that I don't have any rules for liminals, exigents or the other new splats. It's not a big problem, but it's nice to have options. Anyone have suggestions for quick and dirty rules?

Nexus

Does anyone else find themselves really disliking the 3rd edition setting?
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Brand55

Quote from: Nexus;896488Does anyone else find themselves really disliking the 3rd edition setting?
I don't know enough about it to have a very strong opinion. I know enough to know that 3rd edition isn't for me and I've got enough on my plate (I'm about to start reading through Horror on the Orient Express) that I have no intention of trying to read through the entire core book to get a better grasp of the setting. Of the major changes that I'm aware of, the geographical changes don't really bother me and the new Exalted types I find to be entirely unnecessary. They would probably be the biggest complaint I could raise right now about the setting.

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Nexus;896488Does anyone else find themselves really disliking the 3rd edition setting?

No snark, but I am genuinely curious as to why you don't like it?
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Quote from: yabaziou;895676At least, he did not take some money for some vaporware that it is likely to be released the day following the relase of Far West (unless there were some pre-purchase of it ...). And last time I check, the Robotech KS was not in good shape (Iron rain's post confirms its dire state ...) ...
I remember people on TBP posting having paid for the Mechanoid Space over a decade ago, so no, it's not KS's fault that some people would take money for projects they're not able to finish.

Quote from: Nexus;896488Does anyone else find themselves really disliking the 3rd edition setting?
Some parts of it, I've simply excised. Some parts, I like, like sorcery, mortal sorcerers existing, and Exigents.
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Quote from: Nexus;896488Does anyone else find themselves really disliking the 3rd edition setting?

I haven't delved to deeply into it myself, mostly looking at mechanics, but then again I know the setting.  That said, I've found the chapter fiction to range from ok to 'let's put this up on the refrigerator because someone's going to be a writer someday!" levels of bad.

And I'm completely ignoring the new exalts, since A; there isn't anything but fluff available and B; what little fluff there is is scant.

Baulderstone

Quote from: Warboss Squee;896538And I'm completely ignoring the new exalts, since A; there isn't anything but fluff available and B; what little fluff there is is scant.

It's the old WW trick of making sure that every game has some highlighted setting element that is completely undefined by the rules, so you feel obliged to buy more books, which will provide mechanics for it but contain more undefined elements...

Nexus

Quote from: Christopher Brady;896508No snark, but I am genuinely curious as to why you don't like it?

The short answer is: just about everything I've heard about either lives me cold or I actively loathe. Its like they interviewed me about what I liked about and drew me to Exalted then wrote the game around crapping on my answers.
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Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

yabaziou

Quote from: Nexus;896608The short answer is: just about everything I've heard about either lives me cold or I actively loathe. Its like they interviewed me about what I liked about and drew me to Exalted then wrote the game around crapping on my answers.

Maybe it was what they actually do ^_^ ! It is a pity that a nice idea (playing returning godlings in a world where they do not longer belong) has being impleted in a not satisfactory way ...
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#2365
Quote from: yabaziou;896624Maybe it was what they actually do ^_^ ! It is a pity that a nice idea (playing returning godlings in a world where they do not longer belong) has being impleted in a not satisfactory way ...

Its definitely not my cup of boiled leaf juice but allot of people like it so I can't say its objectively terrible. Exalted 3rd has been written to appeal to a fairly specific subset on its fanbase. That, in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. If they can stick to it it will probable work better than trying to serve many master. But it can really suck if you're not one of the target audience (assuming the new style doesn't appeal to you).
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

yabaziou

#2366
Honestly, I was facetious and my interest in Exalted 3 is very slim given the shitload of material I have for the 1st and 2nd editions. I saw the direction they were taking and I knew it was not where I was going. I was staying for the drama (and boy ! I was not disappointed there !) and the new Kevin Crawford (whose KS I pledged to) is far more able to fulfil my over the top heroes godling game interest. Nevertheless, I have no issue with Exalted 3rd and after all the incident in the inception of it, the fans get a product they enjoy, I am glad for them. I am just a little irritated when Exalted writers who happen to be rpgnet modertators get smug about their game (but being smug about his rpg of choice was all the WW/OPP schtick so whatever ...).
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#2367
Quote from: yabaziou;896697Honestly, I was facetious and my interest in Exalted 3 is very slim given the shitload of material I have for the 1st and 2nd editions. I saw the direction they were taking and I knew it was not where I was to go. I was staying for the drama (and boy ! I was not disappointed there !) and the new Kevin Crawford (whose KS I pledged to) is far more able to fulfil my over the top heroes godling game interest. Nevertheless, I have not issue with Exalted 3rd and after all the incident in the inception of it, the fans get a product they enjoy, I am glad for them. I am just a little irritated when Exalted writers who happen to be rpgnet modertators get smug about his game (but being smug about his rpg of choice was all the WW/OPP schtick so whatever ...).

I'm disappointed in the new edition (its like it went from a game of adventure and epic deeds to WoD with a higher special effects budget combined with someone half assed Sociopolitical lecture). But the attitude of the Devs and the Mod staff is big part of what pissed me off.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

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Quote from: AsenRG;896512Some parts of it, I've simply excised. Some parts, I like, like sorcery, mortal sorcerers existing, and Exigents.

And, of course, those are some of the things I really don't like. Taste is a funny thing.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

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And while I'm bitching, the overall attitude of the fanbase is just as annoying as the Devs. Take all the arrogance, pretension and smugness associated with the gamer stereotype and dial it up to 11.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."