Quote from: Gabriel2;737409I've never understood why Exalted was called an anime style game.

Indeed. Far more accurate to call it a twinkie style game.

Quote from: Dodger;737431Indeed. Far more accurate to call it a twinkie style game.

My god it was.  If you don't twink your character just right your gonna die.  If you don't have the right combination of charms for your combo you can't even call yourself a warrior.  If you start out without a perfect defense, then what in the hell is wrong with you?

Quote from: Snowman0147;737484My god it was.  If you don't twink your character just right your gonna die.  If you don't have the right combination of charms for your combo you can't even call yourself a warrior.  If you start out without a perfect defense, then what in the hell is wrong with you?

Suddenly, I don't regret I never bothered reading the 2e's main handbook cover to cover.

Quote from: Nexus;737404I would be more willing to be charitable about if the tone wasn't so condescending towards the notion that, yes, anime fantasy has a major influence on Exalted, to those that like it and didn't come across trying to do some kind of revisionist fast one and play like it was never a major influence (and if you think it was you're foolish). Treat us like adults and just say we're shifting focus or we'd like to emphasis the other inspirations more, something besides condescension and not pander to the fans that like Exalted but have a problem with anime.

I've got the impression in recent years that a big part of what they're trying to do is to push the idea that a lack of interest in anime is not a reason to dislike Exalted. Oddly enough, at times one of the things they're pushing about it as non-anime is the wuxia influences, when I would personally have thought that "people not interested in anime" and "people not interested in wuxia" are going to be sets with a lot of overlap.

Quote from: Rincewind1;737485Suddenly, I don't regret I never bothered reading the 2e's main handbook cover to cover.

Mind you I never read 1.0, but my god I read 2.0.  It might as well call itself Exalted: The Dick Wavers by what I seen from the players.  Which is why I tend to stick with Scion.

Quote from: Snowman0147;737484My god it was.  If you don't twink your character just right your gonna die.  If you don't have the right combination of charms for your combo you can't even call yourself a warrior.  If you start out without a perfect defense, then what in the hell is wrong with you?

The worst part was that you could be one the receiving end of a TPK, by accident.

Daughter of Nexus featured an Abyssal that would butcher it's way through a full circle if you didn't optimize the shit out of the party.

It's meant for average builds.

Exalted Play tester Q and A thread

Warning, its not terribly informative.

Quote from: Nexus;746914Exalted Play tester Q and A thread

Warning, its not terribly informative.

Hardly surprising.

JG

Quote from: Nexus;746914Exalted Play tester Q and A thread

Warning, its not terribly informative.

NDA's, man.

When it's actually available, there'll be plenty of information I'm sure, but there's no point in getting people who didn't kickstart it hyped about it until then.

I really don't get it. What's the point in having playtesters "answer" questions when they can't actually answer any under the NDA?

It's like bad marketing of the 1990s; it wasn't terribly effective then, it's unforgivable now.

Quote from: Kiero;747070I really don't get it. What's the point in having playtesters "answer" questions when they can't actually answer any under the NDA?

It's like bad marketing of the 1990s; it wasn't terribly effective then, it's unforgivable now.

It's not for us. It's for people who are already excited, and just want to be told "yes, it's still awesome, you should keep on being excited".

Quote from: Ladybird;747043NDA's, man.

When it's actually available, there'll be plenty of information I'm sure, but there's no point in getting people who didn't kickstart it hyped about it until then.

yeah but this "I know a secret, its awesome but I won't tell!" bullshit is getting old. It IS a hype machine, just an annoying one. You get threads like the current sycophantic praise on the TBP with people kow towing about something they really haven't seen. I'm not even sure -why- they're being so secretive about it.

And, AIR, the Kickstarter was gravy. There was going to be a 3rd Edition regardless, the kick starter was for various extras so its not like the current developers dragged the game back from the edge of oblivion either. I guess if the KS failed miserably the 3rd edition might have been canceled but it wasn't due to developers. It was the people that ponied up their money.

The "Q and A" thread is just a play tester gloating basically and getting some geek cred which is going to happen, but the actual developers haven't been much better as far as customer relations go, meeting honest and fair questions with secrecy even some overt hostility and condescension (which  they don't get called on...)

Maybe I'm missing something, but on the list of projects that would need an NDA, an RPG is not even on the list. Seems pretty ridiculous and pointless.

Quote from: JamesV;747118Maybe I'm missing something, but on the list of projects that would need an NDA, an RPG is not even on the list. Seems pretty ridiculous and pointless.

I can understand wanting to hold back some things, the majority of them really to maintain some suspense and give people a reason to buy the final product. But the degree seems over the top with Ex3rd. And they're given out allot of "fluff" which frankly is easier to use without getting the rule book. Just take it and convert it to the system of your choice. The mechanics seem like less of an issue.

Quote from: Nexus;746914Exalted Play tester Q and A thread

Warning, its not terribly informative.

No, it really isn't. I read over it and I have to say its like looking at a magic 8ball. Actually the 8ball may be more helpful.

Quote from: James Gillen;747037Hardly surprising.

JG

Not In the least.

Quote from: Kiero;747070I really don't get it. What's the point in having playtesters "answer" questions when they can't actually answer any under the NDA?

It's like bad marketing of the 1990s; it wasn't terribly effective then, it's unforgivable now.

Well I've messaged Rob and tried to talk to other about all this. Basically I think the developers think this is perfectly acceptable and normal. I really do think that they believe this is "marketing" the game. It's not marketing is where you give people information. Its just the information you want them to have, instead of nothing.

Yeah, the whole thing is a cluster fuck. I can't figure out if the developers know its a cluster fuck and don't want to deal with it. Or if they are under the delusion that its all, Ok.

Lets not get me started on the comic or the current thread over on rpg.net.