Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Nexus · April 20, 2016, 05:35:08 PM

Quote from: Snowman0147;893119Is it a image of a solar woman in red holding a sword? If so, then yes.

Prince Diamond seems to the Poster boy for this edition so I expect we'll see allot of her in the art.

Brand55 · April 20, 2016, 05:42:10 PM

Quote from: Snowman0147;893119Is it a image of a solar woman in red holding a sword? If so, then yes.

*cough* Better not let the wrong people hear you say that. The cover is supposed to show Prince Diamond, a transgender character. Born female, he's the most special of special snowflake characters Exalted has ever had. OPP made sure he got the most attention (he's on the cover by himself, after all, instead of having the entire Solar circle there) and they made sure to make him the most heroic, noble, and all-around selfless of the new iconic characters.

Snowman0147 · April 20, 2016, 06:02:46 PM

Holy shit. I was gonna make a joke by comparing this Diamond to Sword Art Online Kirkio, aka the Mary Sue of anime, and found out "anime Jesus" shares the covers with other characters. That says a lot about your character when Kirkio is actually more humble than you.

Brand55 · April 20, 2016, 06:15:44 PM

Quote from: Snowman0147;893138Holy shit. I was gonna make a joke by comparing this Diamond to Sword Art Online Kirkio, aka the Mary Sue of anime, and found out "anime Jesus" shares the covers with other characters. That says a lot about your character when Kirkio is actually more humble than you.

Oh, Prince Diamond is humble. Prince Diamond is noble. Prince Diamond is so much better than you or I that we should all drop to our knees and grovel at how much better than us Prince Diamond is.

Second edition had a lot of faults, obviously, but one of the things I think it definitely did right was putting all five iconic characters on the splat books. Regardless, if they really are keeping that image for the print edition it just means the cover art is another area where (IMO) Godbound beats out Exalted.

Snowman0147 · April 20, 2016, 06:23:51 PM

Oh fuck yes it does. Couldn't find a pic for it in google yet. Still it is pretty epic with that heavenly throne set in the middle of the cathedral throne room. The skeletons depicts a battle in the ancient past and the room had long since been abandon.

Skywalker · April 20, 2016, 06:31:28 PM

Nexus · April 20, 2016, 06:34:22 PM

Quote from: Brand55;893143Oh, Prince Diamond is humble. Prince Diamond is noble. Prince Diamond is so much better than you or I that we should all drop to our knees and grovel at how much better than us Prince Diamond is.

Second edition had a lot of faults, obviously, but one of the things I think it definitely did right was putting all five iconic characters on the splat books. Regardless, if they really are keeping that image for the print edition it just means the cover art is another area where (IMO) Godbound beats out Exalted.

Doesn't Prince Diamond still freak the fuck out of if someone refers to her by the wrong pronoun or whatever have you even if their culture and upbringing aren't don't allow for a concept like Deleth (or however its spelled)? I guess that's considered a feature not a bug.

Brand55 · April 20, 2016, 06:44:24 PM

Quote from: Nexus;893148Doesn't Prince Diamond still freak the fuck out of if someone refers to her by the wrong pronoun or whatever have you even if their culture and upbringing aren't don't allow for a concept like Deleth (or however its spelled)? I guess that's considered a feature not a bug.

I think it's Dereth. And I hadn't heard about that aspect of the character, though I'm sure it would be considered a feature by most of the intended audience. I first read up on the character when the iconics were being introduced last year, and the author went out of his way to point out how noble and heroic PD was compared to the other Solars. All the talk about how selfless and great PD was combined with him being the lone person on the cover just turned me off the character.

Snowman0147 · April 20, 2016, 06:44:50 PM

Thank you Skywalker.

Maese Mateo · April 20, 2016, 06:48:54 PM

Quote from: Snowman0147;893145Oh fuck yes it does. Couldn't find a pic for it in google yet. Still it is pretty epic with that heavenly throne set in the middle of the cathedral throne room. The skeletons depicts a battle in the ancient past and the room had long since been abandon.

I think it's supposed to be the Throne of God, where many Made Gods perished when they tried to sit on it.

Nexus · April 20, 2016, 06:50:48 PM

Quote from: Brand55;893149I think it's Dereth. And I hadn't heard about that aspect of the character, though I'm sure it would be considered a feature by most of the intended audience. I first read up on the character when the iconics were being introduced last year, and the author went out of his way to point out how noble and heroic PD was compared to the other Solars. All the talk about how selfless and great PD was combined with him being the lone person on the cover just turned me off the character.

I can understand that. The did up sell her allot when she proved to be popular not unusual for Exalted. And I agree she is a special snowflake and if she so "insensitive" to other cultures I wonder how she does the Eclipse thing as I'd guess most of Creation probably judges what gender you are by what junk you have (or maybe not given the writers). Even Dereth wasn't really a "transgender" concept, at least not entirely but something that allowed individuals to step outside their cultures strict gender roles though at a cost (which was mostly dropped this edition, IIRC). So maybe she'll be depicted as spreading wisdom to the ignorant or some such.

Snowman0147 · April 20, 2016, 06:52:59 PM

Quote from: Maese Mateo;893152I think it's supposed to be the Throne of God, where many Made Gods perished when they tried to sit on it.

Which is why I call it the heavenly throne.

Brand55 · April 20, 2016, 06:55:56 PM

Quote from: Maese Mateo;893152I think it's supposed to be the Throne of God, where many Made Gods perished when they tried to sit on it.

I just love the scale of it all. Whoever--or whatever--used to sit on that throne was massive. Stars Without Number is still my gold standard for RPG covers and has my favorite cover of Sine Nomine's books, but Godbound is a solid second place (just ahead of Starvation Cheap).

Nexus · April 20, 2016, 06:57:21 PM

Quote from: Brand55;893130*cough* Better not let the wrong people hear you say that.

If Prince Diamond was a real real person and I were talking to her or in a venue she frequented I'd refer to her as she wished to be referred too. It doesn't cost my anything to be polite but as she's a fictional character and can't possibly be offended or hurt by anything I say (not existing and all) I just call her what I think she is.

Brand55 · April 20, 2016, 07:19:48 PM

Quote from: Nexus;893158If Prince Diamond was a real real person and I were talking to her or in a venue she frequented I'd refer to her as she wished to be referred too. It doesn't cost my anything to be polite but as she's a fictional character and can't possibly be offended or hurt by anything I say (not existing and all) I just call her what I think she is.

Oh, I understand completely. But, even though I was joking, there are actually plenty of people who would go off if they saw someone referring to any trans person--real or fictional--by their birth gender.