Improbable means possible, but highly unlikely.  Like finding that ultra rare magical metal at the exact right mine cause your that lucky.

Impossible cannot happen at all.  Magical metal is on short supple so you breed metal plates hogs with magical leather hide as good as that magical metal.

Quote from: Nexus;889111What's the general difference between an Impossible and an Improbable change?

A Plausible change is something that doesn't really require any explanation. Like training a large group of people to be good fighters and thus making them stronger (giving them an extra hit die or some attack bonus).

An Improbable change is something that's not beyond the pale, but still unlikely. Like convincing a city's government to shift from a communist to a democratic system.

An Impossible change is shit that doesn't make sense and really could only happen because the Godbound was exerting magical will on the thing, like... I dunno, making a herd of horses into a herd of pegasi.

And to give a consistent example across the board...

You have a group of villagers and are a God Bound with the word sword..

Plausible
You turn the villagers into a group of professional soldiers

Improbable
Your Village is now a flat out Ninja/Commando training area, like the Iga ninja villages in the mountains of Japan. Everyone from the children to the elderly knows how to kill in 1,000 ways and is an expert in some combat related field.

Impossible
Your Ninja Village citizens now all have out and out mystical abilities. They possess inherent magical traits such as turning into Shadows and all know a lesser strife.

Situation: You are a Godbound with the word Fertility and Artifice, you have a village

Probable: The Village crop yield is fantastically better, and it's structures now make use of better materials and things such as windmills, and better irrigation. The animals of the village are exceptionally healthy and produce far more.

Improbable: The village now has indoor plumbing and limited power using those windmills and waterwheels. Everything born in the village is exceptionally healthy, and the plants and animals are known for their medicinal qualities.

Impossible: Your Village benefits from modern equivalents of electricity, communication, and sanitation. Beyond just having medicinal qualities, the plants and animals from the village can produce magical effects when used by an accomplished alchemist or hedge witch.

Situation: You are dealing with a tyrannical king who works his people to the bone and keeps them hopeless with brutal tyranny..You have the word of passion

Probable: You create a hidden rebellion which begins to work against the King

Improbable: You create an out and out revolt, with the kingdom now in a civil war the former rebellion now having enough recruits to fight the tyrant on their own terms

Impossible: The regime has a change of heart, the king and those who propped him up abdicate their power out of shame, and a new democratic republic is established in their place.

Quote from: Snowman0147;889098By paradise you mean a place where souls are free to rest their for all externality?  A place where the solar can spend a action to regain all spent effort?  Which he has double as much effort so he is twice the solar he once was?

Yes, just make the whole thing into a giant Manse!

Quote from: Snowman0147;889114Improbable means possible, but highly unlikely.  Like finding that ultra rare magical metal at the exact right mine cause your that lucky.

Impossible cannot happen at all.  Magical metal is on short supple so you breed metal plates hogs with magical leather hide as good as that magical metal.

Quote from: Jetstream;889117A Plausible change is something that doesn't really require any explanation. Like training a large group of people to be good fighters and thus making them stronger (giving them an extra hit die or some attack bonus).

An Improbable change is something that's not beyond the pale, but still unlikely. Like convincing a city's government to shift from a communist to a democratic system.

An Impossible change is shit that doesn't make sense and really could only happen because the Godbound was exerting magical will on the thing, like... I dunno, making a herd of horses into a herd of pegasi.

Quote from: Orphan81;889123And to give a consistent example across the board...

You have a group of villagers and are a God Bound with the word sword..

Plausible
You turn the villagers into a group of professional soldiers

Improbable
Your Village is now a flat out Ninja/Commando training area, like the Iga ninja villages in the mountains of Japan. Everyone from the children to the elderly knows how to kill in 1,000 ways and is an expert in some combat related field.

Impossible
Your Ninja Village citizens now all have out and out mystical abilities. They possess inherent magical traits such as turning into Shadows and all know a lesser strife.

Situation: You are a Godbound with the word Fertility and Artifice, you have a village

Probable: The Village crop yield is fantastically better, and it's structures now make use of better materials and things such as windmills, and better irrigation. The animals of the village are exceptionally healthy and produce far more.

Improbable: The village now has indoor plumbing and limited power using those windmills and waterwheels. Everything born in the village is exceptionally healthy, and the plants and animals are known for their medicinal qualities.

Impossible: Your Village benefits from modern equivalents of electricity, communication, and sanitation. Beyond just having medicinal qualities, the plants and animals from the village can produce magical effects when used by an accomplished alchemist or hedge witch.

Situation: You are dealing with a tyrannical king who works his people to the bone and keeps them hopeless with brutal tyranny..You have the word of passion

Probable: You create a hidden rebellion which begins to work against the King

Improbable: You create an out and out revolt, with the kingdom now in a civil war the former rebellion now having enough recruits to fight the tyrant on their own terms

Impossible: The regime has a change of heart, the king and those who propped him up abdicate their power out of shame, and a new democratic republic is established in their place.

Thanks much everyone

Quote from: Nexus;887577So many really like the momentum system but its one of the things unsold me on it. I don't like how it "feels" and the time I tried it it felt like the same slog just grinding through different numbers.

Well, it's a matter of taste. I like how attacks chain off each other, and prepare each other, and how a good counter can totally destroy your careful set-up:).
If it feels the same to you, though, there's obviously not much I can do about it;).

Ex3 Backers offered coupon for POD.

RPG.net thread on the topic.

Quote from: AsenRG;889137Well, it's a matter of taste. I like how attacks chain off each other, and prepare each other, and how a good counter can totally destroy your careful set-up:).
If it feels the same to you, though, there's obviously not much I can do about it;).

Yeah. Different strokes. It felt tedious, overly fiddly and pointlessly complicated to my group but like I said some people really love it and more power to them.

RichT is saving his ass and I don't blame him.  I would do the exact same thing if I was in his shoes.  Other than passing out some pink slips to the team that dragged me down into this hell hole.

Yeah, saw that thread. The spittle-lickers at work again. I'm sure they all have a sore throat from all the fellatio they provide to OPP and the Devs.
And the thread-started is like "I don't even like Ex3e but...", yeah, not buying it...he's the biggest OPP Sycophant there is.

I mean seriously?!

This is the LEAST they can do. Why? Well, first of all, the obvious - they screwed the KS up real bad...and it isn't even done yet.
Second of all, all the OPP KS have this now...KS that started way after Exalted but are already out yet!

So yeah, not that big a gift to the Ex3e backers as those celebration-junkies want to make it seem. On the contrary...the real reason is just "it's good PR" ... not anything to do with "as a thank you to you patient backers" ... sure, they sell it that way...but who are they kidding after all the snark and contempt they showed their upset backers so far.

Will i use the offer? That very much depends on how much the "for cost" price is. And i am betting it is not low...because over 600 pages will be expensive in color and hardcover even "at cost".

While I like OP offering free POD as an apology to backers (I doubt I'll use my coupon, though, shipping to Argentina is to expensive for me and I know I won't play the game anyway), I can't but feel suspicious about the timing of the announcement.

They posted the update less than 24hs after Godbound's KS endend and everyone was talking about how awesome Themed Godbound are to play Exalted.

It's probably just a funny coincidence and nothing else, but still I can't quite get this thought out of my head.

I suspect you're right, Maese Mateo, because PR stunts are PR stunts:).

But then, what I know is that I got an at-cost code for free. I might not use it, but at least I have the option, so I approve their PR stunt and give it an automatic susccess on top of the 2 bonus dice;).

Coupon or no coupon, this Kickstarter was a failure by any reasonable standard. Congrats, OP, the second highest grossing Kickstarter in the hobbt's history has failed worse than Dwimmermount. Maybe you should have hired Autarch to kick in when you couldn't?

Now at cost color printing at OBS for a 660 page book is...

• standard softcover: $21.40
• standard hardcover: $26.10
• premium softcover: $67.80
• premium hardcover: $72.30

So assuming all 4,368 backers use their voucher and Onyx Path is not getting a special deal, this gesture will cost them...

• standard softcover: $93,475.20
• standard hardcover: $114,004.80
• premium softcover: $296,150.40
• premium hardcover: $315,806.40

And assuming they get the maximum quantity discount listed of 20% it becomes...

• standard softcover: $74,780.16
• standard hardcover: $91,203.84
• premium softcover: $236,920.32
• premium hardcover: $252,645.12

Oh wait nevermind...

   "we will send every backer a link for a discounted version of the PoD, cut to as close to the cost for us to print it as we can get it."

So these aren't even at cost coupons like the RPG.net thread implied, but merely discounts which will be as good as they can possibly be no trust us really. At least now folks who have the coupon can figure out exactly how much of a discount that actually is.

If it were me, I'd want a coupon I could put towards other Onyx Path products at this point.

#DamageControl

Oh wow...   Damn RichT.  That is just scum.  I honestly thought it was for the thing people paid money.  Now if I understand this right they have to buy another book to get the discount benefit.  Damn that is ice cold.