Quote from: Iron_Rain;883822Anyone who's QQing that the guys at tgdmb aren't groveling over how amazing this game is has their up their ass at the awful game design used here. And yes, I'll conceed that the setting may indeed be awesome. I don't care.

Cool strawman bro. Maybe you can take it home and run a game for it?

Quote from: Iron_Rain;883824As well - since I actually post at tgdmb under another name, there's a broad consensus on the boards that most games have some good parts and other parts that are total shit and you just have to play the game inspite of them.

See this thread: "Are any RPGs actually good?"

http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=56373&highlight=

Much as I enjoy reading TGD every now and then, I think it's pretty damning that such a thread is even judged necessary by a poster.

Not saying that theRPGsite is perfect — we too have our share of people trying to pass off their gaming preferences and prejudices as Objectively Better — but people here seem less concerned with "spherical cows" and more with the demands of actual game play. Not to mention being a tad more upbeat about the hobby in general.

This is before you apply CON mod.  My character is sitting on 29 hp at level four.  If I have that health gift I would get 2 more hp per level.  That is 37 hp.  At this point mortals are laughable as I can use miracles to nuke them to ashes.

Quote from: Snowman0147;883853This is before you apply CON mod.  My character is sitting on 29 hp at level four.  If I have that health gift I would get 2 more hp per level.  That is 37 hp.  At this point mortals are laughable as I can use miracles to nuke them to ashes.

Why would you need to wait for Level Four:D?

Fair enough that I get some criticism for not finishing reading the book. I'm just saying, that  a skim through the first 20 pages or so gave me a pretty bad opinion of where the game was going mechanically.

Quote from: AsenRG;883856Why would you need to wait for Level Four:D?

My words are beast, might, endurance, and night.  I am saving for sorcery.  I just use my character as a example.

Quote from: Iron_Rain;883858Fair enough that I get some criticism for not finishing reading the book. I'm just saying, that  a skim through the first 20 pages or so gave me a pretty bad opinion of where the game was going mechanically.

And I'm telling you that your opinion right now is "it's got two legs, no feathers, must be a human"!

Quote from: Snowman0147;883861My words are beast, might, endurance, and night.  I am saving for sorcery.  I just use my character as a example.

It's OK then;). My Words include Alacrity and Sword, though, and that's murder against an almost arbitrarily great number of mortals!

Quote from: Iron_Rain;883858Fair enough that I get some criticism for not finishing reading the book. I'm just saying, that  a skim through the first 20 pages or so gave me a pretty bad opinion of where the game was going mechanically.

TBH your post kind of comes across as from a person who is fishing for things not to like and would not be genuinely interested in the RPG regardless. That is going to colour how much weight your posts carry on the subject and how people respond to them.

Iron Rain you have to think of this way.  Unless the enemy can do straight, use divine smite, and/or corona of fury the worst you can expect is 4 damage.  Only 4 damage.  That is a equivalent of a critical hit.  It is rare to get that.  In fact it is as rare as getting no damage at all from a successful attack.  The most you see is 1, or 2 damage.

Now you got to take in the fact that you have damage overflow which transfer excess damage to the foes near him.  Then if there are lesser foes you get a bonus 1d8 fray die for further pain.

Say you got three soldiers with claymores.  They attack your Godbound, but you get to act first.  Best case is you roll 10, or more on the damage die.  That is 4 HD damage.  The soldiers are 2 HD each.  One dies instantly because you struck them and the nearest one also dies due to overflow.  Finally the fray die gets a 6 which is 2 HD damage.  So the third soldier dies leaving you unharmed.

It is even possible for a 1st level character to have Gifts that are able to inflict their Fray dice on all targets within line of sight. If you group lesser mortal foes into mobs, that turns the damage into straight damage, and you can go around killing hundreds of plebs.

Quote from: Iron_Rain;883858Fair enough that I get some criticism for not finishing reading the book. I'm just saying, that  a skim through the first 20 pages or so gave me a pretty bad opinion of where the game was going mechanically.

Which is fine. Trust me, I don't think anyone here expects Godbound's mechanics to be universally adored. Some of us have already tossed around ideas for how we'd swap around some calculations to better suit our own preferences, and I know there's plenty of people who want to use parts of the game while completely ignoring anything even mentioning a d20.

It's just that particularly harsh criticism of the game is going to draw a similarly harsh response when that criticism isn't actually talking about what's in the book. If you care to know more about the game feel free to ask questions. And if you're sure it's not for you, then no worries. There's certainly more fish in the sea.

Quote from: Skywalker;883896It is even possible for a 1st level character to have Gifts that are able to inflict their Fray dice on all targets within line of sight. If you group lesser mortal foes into mobs, that turns the damage into straight damage, and you can go around killing hundreds of plebs.

I'm surprised Rain of Sorrow doesn't require Effort be committed for the scene, it's quite powerful.

On the other hand, it only affects Mobs and lesser foes, so it's not has powerful as Corona of Fury (plus CF does a lot more damage than RoS when you gain a few levels).


PS: I love this game so much.

Quote from: Iron_Rain;883824As well - since I actually post at tgdmb under another name, there's a broad consensus on the boards that most games have some good parts and other parts that are total shit and you just have to play the game inspite of them.

See this thread: "Are any RPGs actually good?"

http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=56373&highlight=

Oh, and now I have an answer for you:).
"Yes, many RPGs manage to achieve what they set out to do, and not get in the way of fun, though what they set out to do might not be fun for you, that's your problem".
You can post it for me, and link to this post, I'm not planning to register just to post one sentence:D!

In the interest of keeping things fair and balanced.

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?777479-EX3-What-have-your-positive-experiences-been-so-far

I had one positive experience with EX3 too: one day we stopped playing it.

In all seriousnes now: we liked the core engine when we playtested it, it's only when you add the damn bazillon Charms that it becomes super slow and boring for us. If they recycle the core engine for other games with less powers and rule bits it'd be a fine game.

Quote from: Maese Mateo;884005I had one positive experience with EX3 too: one day we stopped playing it.

In all seriousnes now: we liked the core engine when we playtested it, it's only when you add the damn bazillon Charms that it becomes super slow and boring for us. If they recycle the core engine for other games with less powers and rule bits it'd be a fine game.

That might be why I like it more than most people,  it seems. I am still playing a Heroic Mortal, and by now should have lots of XP banked.
I seem to have a higher tolerance for crunch than many, though, so that might be it.