Quote from: Nexus;882712Rpg.net thread: Exalted: Did it want to be rules lite or am I missing the point?

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?777282-Exalted-Did-it-want-to-be-a-rules-lite-game-Or-am-I-missing-the-point

Quote from: AsenRG;882731Not in my book, he isn't.

Quote from: Orphan81;8827181e was as close as we got honestly.... 2e just piled on more complication as if that was the problem Exalted had. 3e went even worse, but that's what you get when people who don't actually play Roleplaying games design them.

Quote from: Skywalker;882825All cool. There are indisputably multiple groups in the Exalted fanbase

The two more extreme groups, being those that love Exalted 3e's rules crunchiness and those that want a rules lite Exalted, tend to be the most vocal online as they are often in opposition.

The preference Orphan81 expresses, being a rules lite core with a high, yet manageable, number of awesome rules exception powers, is what I expect is the silent majority. It certainly is the case from my anecdotal experiences of the Exalted fanbase where I live.

Quote from: Kiero;882827Wait, what? There are people involved in the design of Ex3 who don't even play RPGs?

I'm not saying this would surprise me in the least, but it's public knowledge?

Quote from: Kiero;882827Wait, what? There are people involved in the design of Ex3 who don't even play RPGs?

I'm not saying this would surprise me in the least, but it's public knowledge?

Quote from: Celestial;882841What I found amusing is that I was banned from RPG.net for a day for pointing that out.

Quote from: Celestial;882841What I found amusing is that I was banned from RPG.net for a day for pointing that out.

Quote from: Nexus;883008https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?777282-Exalted-Did-it-want-to-be-a-rules-lite-game-Or-am-I-missing-the-point&p=19863910#post19863910

I know I'm probably being paranoid but it still strikes me as weird
 how many users seem to pop up to support the Devs or the Exalted status quo with odd low post counts even if they're listed as registered for years like "Joe Smoke" here who seems to post less than once a year on average (or in short bursts followed a long silence) though mostly about Exalted.

Maybe it is an indication of some Silent Majority lurking behind vocal masses on forums or just how popular the game is and strong feelings it evokes. But in any case, it seems odd.

Quote from: Anglachel;883016Lol...yeah, after reading that post, the only thing that comes to mind is "Sock-Puppet, YO!". Considering that this is a ban-able offence on there, i guess we should investigate

QuoteAlso, so many WTF moments lately in Exalted threads...especially posts by Zeea (or however it is spelt) ... i mean who is she kidding.

Quote from: Nexus;883017What did she do?

It does seem like she really sold her soul in the backdoor meeting or whatever.

QuoteThe corebook's writing was fine and fast. Other things surrounding the Kickstarter were a clusterfuck, such as the fiction, the art, the leaks, some of the PR, and that sort of thing. But it's done, and the other products are unlikely to have as many issues because the dev team has had time to learn from those issues. I don't think any of those mistakes will be repeated again for future books, and most of the upcoming books are pretty much done being written.

As for the fracturing of the fanbase, I think that was inevitable and needed to happen. Exalted has been a contentious mess for a very long time, with increasingly angry fans fighting over the identity of the game while the developers didn't take a side. That's a big part of why this discussion has been so heated for years. I'm glad that we're finally having this breakdown, because it means that the fans of the three or so big approaches will likely stop arguing as much.

It also means there's way more openings for Exalted-style games that go in the other directions. People who wanted a non-Storyteller game that's like Exalted can make one without any fear of Exalted shifting away from Storyteller and compete with them. People who wanted the more magitech elements can make and sell those settings without worrying about it being redundant. Exalted hopping off the three-directional fence into one of the sections of the pie chart means that the other two sections are freed up for more designers.

I got into Exalted because I saw the 1e core book in the bookstore and bought it. I loved it. I felt alienated as the game went more toward Exalted 2e's magitech, codifying all the mysteries, weird rules, etc. I'm glad that the game is moving toward more mystery, toward better rules, toward sword and sorcery. Exalted 3e is a return to the old form, but with more oversight and focused direction.

This is also the first edition I've ever enjoyed playing, mechanically. I just don't understand the objections, and imagine I never will. I don't think anyone could write a game that works for me, someone who likes 2e, and someone who likes 1e mechanics at the same time. So they sorta had to choose, and I think they chose well.