But it's so much more fun to believe in conspiracies!

Probably doesn't help with all the drama from the TBP... magnified by the occasional spillover here.

Quote from: Future Villain Band;875980I would be careful attributing Stephen's take on 1e's development with what 1e's development was actually like. Stephen came on in 2e's development, under John Chambers.  He developed a couple of the books I worked on, and he did it very well.  But I wrote for 1e, and I never saw or felt any kind of "fuck you" toward Tolkien-esque fantasy.  

It doesn't really matter.  If he thinks there was a "Your D&D is bad and you should feel bad" vibe in the game and includes that in his own material, it's there now even if there wasn't before.  Even if no one ever said anything like that or even thought it, the usual "death of the author" bullshit can be invoked to justify why it was "really" there anyway.

The "D and D sucks" 'tude was far more prevalent in Exalted discussions and among the fanbase and some of the writers. In fairness, there didn't seem to be much of it in the official material or it was very subtle (aside from the asinine "Graduate your game" marketing). But yeah, there's does seem to be a degree of contempt for D and D in a significant portion of the fandom and some of its staff. Some of that might be nerd rage, hatin' on the top dog and trashing talking the competition, but its there. But barely a thread seems to go by without at least one potshot being taken.

Hell, I've see Exalted called "D and D for people that think they're too good for D and D" quite a bit,.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;875929For all the terribad rules of 3e, I do like the way it bundled motivations and virtues into intimacies. I should burrow that when running Qwixalted.

I think that most of this thread can be summed up as "just run Qwixalted."

JG

Quote from: James Gillen;876120I think that most of this thread can be summed up as "just run Qwixalted."

JG

Or run Godbound when it gets out.

Quote from: Snowman0147;876124Or run Godbound when it gets out.

You know...I kinda want Godbound to be it's own thing. But higher power domain shifting material is all good in my book.

Hey guys setting up a way to convert exalted to godbound.  I did the cosmos first.  Tell me what you guys think about it please.

Went to work on the exalted types.  Seriously the hardest part was dealing with the Sidereals.  Seriously how are they even playable in storyteller White Wolf?

Solars
Lunars
Sidereals

They're not. As I understand it, they're the epitome of Handwavium turned up to 11.

Wow that is depressing as hell.  How is the godbound conversion?

Sidereals in 1e were playable, in fact they had one of the best Charmsets, fluff and mechanical-wise. Unfortunately, it was too good, so it lead to unbalance with the other splats (but as long as you were playing a Sidereal-only game, you were fine).

In 2e they screw them real good. Their charmset was an unplayable mess. The guy in charge just made a lazy copypaste from 1e without taking into consideration how much the rules changed from 1e to 2e.

We don't know what they are going to look in 3e yet, but probably the book will be out in time for my great grandchildren to read the bazillon charms in it.

Thank the gods we have Godbound now (the pay version will even feature how to make thematic Godbounds, and the example ones are similar to Exalted splats).

Quote from: Mostlyjoe;876360You know...I kinda want Godbound to be it's own thing. But higher power domain shifting material is all good in my book.

I agree. I like the Godbound setting as it is (the only thing I don't like, the Bright Republic, can be easily removed).

Thing is you can put whatever you want in Godbound as it consist more than one realm.  It is like having infinity creations.  In the conversion I made the Exalted setting its own realm that is largely detached from the rest of the realms.

Quote from: Snowman0147;881874Thing is you can put whatever you want in Godbound as it consist more than one realm.  It is like having infinity creations.  In the conversion I made the Exalted setting its own realm that is largely detached from the rest of the realms.

What I meant to say is that I like the Godbound default realm to run games. I think that's what Mostlyjose tried to say as well.

Well of course.  The only reason I did the conversion is to provide something for people other than a massive book filled with too many charms to count.

Still the main setting of Godbound leave it to godbound.