Has the PDF been put into general release?

Quote from: Nexus;866389Has the PDF been put into general release?

Nope.

I would have thought it would have been released for general sale by now.

Quote from: Nexus;866397I would have thought it would have been released for general sale by now.

Why? They had to incorporate errata and wait for new art to come in. I assume they'll want to give the final PDF another once-over at that point to make sure nothing got thrown off. Given their glacial rate of progress up to this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the public PDF doesn't hit until after the new year arrives.

Quote from: Brand55;866405Why? They had to incorporate errata and wait for new art to come in. I assume they'll want to give the final PDF another once-over at that point to make sure nothing got thrown off. Given their glacial rate of progress up to this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the public PDF doesn't hit until after the new year arrives.

I'm assuming, judging by what they've done so far, that they're errata updates are going to need errata updates in of themselves.

Quote from: Brand55;866405Why?

The last I really looked into it the responses to suggested errata were essentially "that's how we want it" and silence with a few minor corrections that would take a few moments with an pdf editor to handle.

The art was going back and fourth between "Its fine" and "These are just placeholders, really!" So I didn't know how much actual revision there was left; if there was going to be some changes or was another "and final version will be totally different!" scenario like with the last edition.

QuoteI wouldn't be surprised if the public PDF doesn't hit until after the new year arrives.

Quite possible.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;866409I'm assuming, judging by what they've done so far, that they're errata updates are going to need errata updates in of themselves.

I'm beginning to think that's what behind all the tsking about gaming the system. Its like the other editions. Incredibly fiddly and dense but not as mechanically rigorous as it seems to be and falls apart when taxed. It took awhile for the cracks to show in the other editions too.

If each of the splat hardbacks is going to add the same level of crunch (700+ charms and other items*) the number of moving parts this game is going to have is insane and feels like begging the system to buckle under the weight of unexpected interactions alone.

*Which I don't see how they can avoid for any of them except Sidereals without using allot of "Works just like Solar charm X with such and such different effects". Which would probably alienate much of their fanbase.

Quote from: Nexus;866415The last I really looked into it the responses to suggested errata were essentially "that's how we want it" and silence with a few minor corrections that would take a few moments with an pdf editor to handle.

The art was going back and fourth between "Its fine" and "These are just placeholders, really!" So I didn't know how much actual revision there was left; if there was going to be some changes or was another "and final version will be totally different!" scenario like with the last edition.

A lot of the errata turned in will be waved away, but they still need to do fixes like dealing with references to rules that were changed or don't even exist anymore. I know there are multiple Charms referring to things like animal stats or Evocation rules that don't exist anymore. As for the art, there are at least one or two new pieces coming to replace the ones that were heavily copied from other works. OPP doesn't have any control over when those arrive, and I don't know how motivated the artist is to hurry up since he isn't getting paid for them.

And the fact this is all falling around the holidays likely doesn't help speed the process along, either.

As of last Monday:

QuoteEx 3 core book – From RichT: Devs working on notating changes to a clean PDF to send to me and Maria for review. Art corrections are in progress. Unique Charm Compilation Reward backers continue to send in their ideas for the Charms that the team will be creating for them.

Given it took almost a month to add page references, I am guessing that errata, art corrections, and new layout for the text behind pictures will mean that the final PDF will be January/February.

That should mean we are on track for a Xmas 2016 release for the print book.

Quote from: Skywalker;866421As of last Monday:



Given it took almost a month to add page references, I am guessing that errata, art corrections, and new layout for the text behind pictures will mean that the final PDF will be January/February.

That should mean we are on track for a Xmas 2016 release for the print book.

You're certainly feeling optimistic, aren't you.

Quote from: Skywalker;866421As of last Monday:



Given it took almost a month to add page references, I am guessing that errata, art corrections, and new layout for the text behind pictures will mean that the final PDF will be January/February.

That should mean we are on track for a Xmas 2016 release for the print book.

Yeah, looks that way.

I just wonder if they'll hold off on making PoD copies available until the deluxe copies arrive. If so, then we've still got a long wait ahead of us. If they don't, then we might see physical copies of the book before summer.

So, given their track record so far, put me down for a Christmas 2016 estimate on the book's release, too.

Quote from: Brand55;866429I just wonder if they'll hold off on making PoD copies available until the deluxe copies arrive.

History says no.

I would expect POD by August 2016, with the price tag of $120 for premium, being more expensive than the deluxe KS version.

Quote from: Skywalker;866430History says no.

I would expect POD by August 2016, with the price tag of $120 for premium, being more expensive than the deluxe KS version.

120 dollars?

Holy fuck.

Quote from: Nexus;866440120 dollars?

Holy fuck.

Based on Mage 20, yep. Shipping is pretty high too. Another $30 for me in New Zealand.

You can get standard colour for $70, but that would be awful for a book with layered visuals like Exalted.