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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Nexus

Quote from: Rincewind1;736576People of Creation aren't afraid of naked bodies.

Our target audience, however, is afraid of (pretty) naked bodies, so there will be no cheesecake art.

"You must be at least THIS pierced and androgynous to appear in Exalted Art."
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Snowman0147

Considering some naked bodies I seen at 2.0 that won't be too hard.  Still bitching about seeing naked bodies in a game book?  How boring is your life to complain about that?  How pamper are you to get insulted by it?

James Gillen

Quote from: Nexus;736480I feel like I might be reading too much into one of hatewhee's original posts but it seems like they're giving in to fanon and running with "Everyone in Creation is bisexual unless its stated otherwise" thing.

So, basically it's the Torchwood Roleplaying Game?

jg
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

James Gillen

Quote from: Snowman0147;736579Considering some naked bodies I seen at 2.0 that won't be too hard.  Still bitching about seeing naked bodies in a game book?  How boring is your life to complain about that?  How pamper are you to get insulted by it?

Given how much AD&D got bowdlerized by the Pat Pulling brigade, this kind of self-censorship from the left is more than a bit ironic.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Snowman0147

I am actually liberal and I think those censorship people are stupid.  Well maybe not so liberal...  Lets just say I am not republican.

Nexus

Quote from: James Gillen;736590Given how much AD&D got bowdlerized by the Pat Pulling brigade, this kind of self-censorship from the left is more than a bit ironic.

JG

It's the new prudery, same shame, different motivation. Less God, more political correctness. But basically just another excuse to try and control what others can see, say and purchase.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warthur

Quote from: Nexus;736568Stephen Shepherd has been handling the thread better at this point. It's still a wreck but not a total one.
Though look at how far he stretches to try and give a positive answer to "is Exalted 3 open to houseruling" whilst at the same time not flat-out lying about the fact that actually houseruling Exalted is a big job and there's a limit to how easy they can make it.
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

Snowman0147

Quote from: Nexus;736593It's the new prudery, same shame, different motivation. Less God, more political correctness. But basically just another excuse to try and control what others can see, say and purchase.

That entire statement is true.  It is the same type of people with a new paint job.  This isn't a conservative vs liberal deal.  This is pro censorship vs common sense deal.  The right use god and the left use political correctness while trying to achieve the same results.

It never cease to amaze me how people still can't figure that one out.  Lets just call it what it is.  When people want to change Exalted to their expectations, or they are going to get offended by it that is censorship.  They want to censor something they don't like despite the fact that something depicts what actually goes on in the setting.

Lynn

Are there any examples of this nekkid art online? All I am finding is sort of anime style art.
Lynn Fredricks
Entrepreneurial Hat Collector

Snowman0147

Deviantart.com of course.  Just type down Exalted and you will find something.

Nexus

Quote from: Lynn;736691Are there any examples of this nekkid art online? All I am finding is sort of anime style art.

You might find some pieces under

Kiyo
Ross Campbell
Melissa Uran

under Exalted on deviantart
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warthur

Quote from: Snowman0147;736667That entire statement is true.  It is the same type of people with a new paint job.  This isn't a conservative vs liberal deal.  This is pro censorship vs common sense deal.  The right use god and the left use political correctness while trying to achieve the same results.
Gotta say, I have a lot of time for political correctness and social justice, but not a lot of time for people trying to use them as an argument for censorship. I've always felt that anyone can publish anything they like, but freedom of speech cuts both ways: you can't have the freedom to publish whatever you like on the one hand but at the same time deny your critics the freedom to say whatever they like about your work.

On the other hand, it's important to remember that "censorship" means something very specific and there's a marked tendency to overuse it in internet discussion. Censorship is forbidding someone from publishing something. That's not the same thing as shunning a product because you dislike it, or even urging a boycott, because there's a distinction between saying "This book is terrible and should be banned" and saying "this book is terrible and I advise against buying it". Freedom of speech doesn't come with any guarantee that you'll actually profit from exercising that freedom, and if you offend the market's sensibilities you should expect to take a sales hit - unless, of course, the people you're offending don't actually represent that much of the customer base.

Example in point:
QuoteIt never cease to amaze me how people still can't figure that one out.  Lets just call it what it is.  When people want to change Exalted to their expectations, or they are going to get offended by it that is censorship.  They want to censor something they don't like despite the fact that something depicts what actually goes on in the setting.
Are they actually advocating that Exalted should be banned unless it changes? Or are they saying "I'm not going to be an Exalted customer and intend to recommend people avoid Exalted unless this changes?" Because "I think this would be better if it were different" isn't censorship, it's criticism. Likewise "I find this offensive" isn't censorship, it's criticism. It might not be particularly good criticism, or it might be criticism which uses criteria which aren't compatible with your own tastes, but it's not censorship unless there's a genuine effort to suppress publication.
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

Snowman0147

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Knowing those people if they had the power to ban they would.  I spoken with quite a few at google plus and they flat out said they would love to ban it.  So they are who I am talking about.

So yeah for those the critics let them complain about the setting.  I generally believe they are missing the point entirely, but that is just me.  Just don't be like the people I had pointed out is all I am asking.

Lynn

Quote from: Nexus;736706You might find some pieces under

Kiyo
Ross Campbell
Melissa Uran

under Exalted on deviantart

Okay, I looked. I saw some implied sex and boobs of anime type characters. Some of the 2nd Edition stuff was really quite good, but it just looks like fantasy anime / manga to me with a little bit of mythology pixie dust on it.
Lynn Fredricks
Entrepreneurial Hat Collector

Snowman0147

Quote from: Lynn;736753Okay, I looked. I saw some implied sex and boobs of anime type characters. Some of the 2nd Edition stuff was really quite good, but it just looks like fantasy anime / manga to me with a little bit of mythology pixie dust on it.

That is exalted in a nut shell.  It is suppose to be fantasy anime/manga mythology.