Quote from: Mostlyjoe;864827Assuming the could afford it.

Looking at the money from the KS,they probably could.

Given the back-of-the-envelope calculation I did before, and looking at the artwork excerpts, it may be that OPP spent a lot of that money on licensing. That's one thing I didn't factor in.

Quote from: Baron Opal;864899Given the back-of-the-envelope calculation I did before, and looking at the artwork excerpts, it may be that OPP spent a lot of that money on licensing. That's one thing I didn't factor in.

According to Onyx Path (grain of salt and all that), Exalted 3E was going to be published whether the KS was successful or not. It was just for extras and massive gold plated books and such. Of course, that was before they scrapped it entirely and started a brand spanking new rewrite. The licensing fees should have already been taken care of at that point.

Quote from: Michael Gray;864909According to Onyx Path (grain of salt and all that), Exalted 3E was going to be published whether the KS was successful or not. It was just for extras and massive gold plated books and such. Of course, that was before they scrapped it entirely and started a brand spanking new rewrite. The licensing fees should have already been taken care of at that point.

Also raises. Don't forget that two of their stretch goals turned out to be more money for their pockets. One was even left as a surprise with three possibilities listed, and naturally they chose to give themselves more money.

So between the Exalted KS and the cash they're making off the WoD I don't think funding should be an issue unless they're really bad at managing money. Which isn't entirely impossible, of course.

Surprisingly absolute no one, there's another sex charm shitstorm a brewing. Right now its more a shit shower but it might blow up to something more. You'd really think they'd learn their lesson about this but apparently this is one subject where the Devs and writers are going to hold out....

Does anyone have experience and advice for running Qwixalted? I was interested in playing Exalted but I am not masochistic enough to bother with the ST rules.

Quote from: Nexus;864352Man, I feel old. I remember when a group of guys sitting around pretending to be lesbians was considered creepy. Now its progressive.

Mind if I sig this?

Quote from: Warboss Squee;864999Mind if I sig this?

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Quote from: Nexus;864947Surprisingly absolutely no one, there's another sex charm shitstorm a brewing. Right now its more a shit shower but it might blow up to something more. You'd really think they'd learn their lesson about this but apparently this is one subject where the Devs and writers are going to hold out....

For once, I hope they do hold out:). People that raise shitstorms over sex charms in a game like Exalted are really annoying.
I mean the "walking in an OD&D discussion to ask why is anybody still playing the obsolete edition" level of annoying;).

Quote from: AsenRG;865047For once, I hope they do hold out:). People that raise shitstorms over sex charms in a game like Exalted are really annoying.
I mean the "walking in an OD&D discussion to ask why is anybody still playing the obsolete edition" level of annoying;).

Yep. Don't like 'em? Don't use 'em. But they are absolutely fitting for something like Exalted. And it makes me shake my head at how people are totally fine with extensive crit tables that gloriously describe just how far the entrails of one's enemies will fly when that perfect roll comes up, but heaven forbid we delve into anything related to sex.

Quote from: Brand55;864916Also raises. Don't forget that two of their stretch goals turned out to be more money for their pockets. One was even left as a surprise with three possibilities listed, and naturally they chose to give themselves more money.

So between the Exalted KS and the cash they're making off the WoD I don't think funding should be an issue unless they're really bad at managing money. Which isn't entirely impossible, of course.

I totally forgot about that part.

Quote from: Brand55;865077Yep. Don't like 'em? Don't use 'em. But they are absolutely fitting for something like Exalted. And it makes me shake my head at how people are totally fine with extensive crit tables that gloriously describe just how far the entrails of one's enemies will fly when that perfect roll comes up, but heaven forbid we delve into anything related to sex.

Yep. Something I brought up on that thread is that there is a specific rule that allows player (and by extension the GM) to simply veto any sexually oriented social activity they're uncomfortable with.

But there is no allowance for vetoing anything else. Your character could conceivably be talked into murdering their family in cold blood by a skilled manipulator and, outside of the mechanics or walking there's nothing you can do but who your fictional avatar have imaginary sex with sacrosanct.

The dispute also seems to tie into a desire to have the rules be some kind of Holy Text that covers everything. The so called Red Rule isn't good enough because its "OOC" the text must specifically state, in character that characters defined as Asexuals are completely immune to any seduction attempts or that cross orientation seduction are impossible, etc etc. Like its going to stop some people from being jerks and (seemingly worse) having opinions that are different and expressing them in their games.

Because somebody, somewhere might be offended. The great moral crime of 21st century. I don't really care of the writers of the game have an "agenda". Everyone has an agenda. If you like the game, change the stuff don't like or play another game. Everything doesn't have to created for some mythological LCD.

And damn it, I'm back on that soapbox.

Bring it bit back to gaming in general. I admit these constant shitfest are really starting to change my mind on the viability of social mechanics at all. At least if you're trying to avoid horrors like Erasure By Failing to take into account every possible Fringe Case in the world.

Quote from: Nexus;865107Bring it bit back to gaming in general. I admit these constant shitfest are really starting to change my mind on the viability of social mechanics at all. At least if you're trying to avoid horrors like Erasure By Failing to take into account every possible Fringe Case in the world.

Yeah, I have to admit to not using special rules for social conflict. Even the social rules in Savage Worlds, which are incredibly simple, rarely see use at my table. Social situations are handled by dialogue between player(s) and GM with an occasional roll thrown in when necessary.

I've never needed anything more complicated than that. I understand there are plenty of people who want a fully structured system, and more power to them, but I've found what works for me and my group.

Social mechanics really require allot of player buy in to work and a good ability to separate the PC from yourself including understanding that the mechanics might reveal something about the character even you didn't know (or at least didn't plan on) and the humans are often irrational actors that don't act logically, optimally and according to strict guidelines. That's not always conducive some ideas of fun and might be more trouble than its worth unless you get a group that all on the same page in the regard.

Once again there seems to be a real dichotomy between what is accept for physical mechanics to determine as opposed to social. Outlier results happen in for example combat. The farm boy armed with a rusty knife managed to critically injure the heavily armored warrior is fine but the skilled tempter manages to seduce the frigid academic or the gay man (in the sense of convincing them to have sex or some kind of physical intimate relationship for one encounter) isn't though there's several ways to interpret both and both have happened in reality let alone fiction.

Took 'em awhile but they finally got around to closing Exalted - thread.