Quote from: Christopher Brady;862567Am I like the only person who wanted to grab the poor fellow and scream "Breath!"  Cuz, those have got to be some of the longest run on sentences I've ever seen.  I got exhausted just reading them!

It was really stream of consciousness. I gave up trying to read it about half way though the the first post. Quendalon's enthusiastic "Thanks for posting this!" was... well it was something in light of the fact most of seemed to find it unreadable. But I guess demonstrating proper devotion should be rewarded.

QuoteUnless, of course, Zeea was worried that he hurt Exalted's feelings...

Zeea seems to have become one of the priesthood.

Quote from: Snowman0147;862349Yeah that is on a separate thread in this site.  Though I wish Paradox would dump Onyx Path.

Sorry, I didn't see the other thread until after I posted that .

Quote from: Skywalker;862359Yeah. Even the listed modern inspiration for Exalted include many things that now seem taboo to Exalted fans.

Rather than clothing people, everyone should get naked and have fun; young and old; male and female; nobility and vagabond; warrior and wizard.

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Good example, but of course an illustration like that could get enough bricks shat to rebuild the pyramids. Unless you replaced the women with men that it might be awesome.

Quote from: Charles Gray;19524971I was most happy with Ma-Ha-Suchi, it seemed that as 2E rolled around, there was an ongoing contest to "See how we can make him even more horrible."  It really reduced him to "okay, this dude is the final boss fight for the East" and I'm happy to see a character that you could actually work with without having to cross the moral even horizon by not totally killing him the first moment you get.

Ma-Ha Suchi now with 100 percent less conflict and interest.

What is about everyone having to be "someone you can work with (and feel good about it)? Some actual antagonists and villains aren't a bad thing in a game that's going to be anything but a Civ variant played on paper.

Quote from: Luca;862637Just wait for Godbound and spare yourself the trouble.

Quote from: Brand55;862640I would strongly second this.

Thanks both! I've had a quick look at the Godhound beta and it seems like it would do the trick nicely!

I also appreciate the tips on the previous editions. To be honest, I'm not committed to the idea of running Exalted necessarily, but was interested to hear that people were complimenting the new setting. I'm always up for hearing about interesting environments to game in, so was wondering what people thought of the new ideas.

Quote from: Nexus;862677If you liked the anime feel (depending on how you define that) I wouldn't bother with 3rd edition...

You know, like that time Hercules and Conan rode their flying kung fu T-Rexes into battle against soul eating fairies from the Chaosphere . *eye roll*

Oh yeah, that's one of my favourite Conan stories...  

To be honest, though, I live in Hong Kong, with ample access to wuxia influences and didn't find that aspect of Exalted particularly captivating. I was also never the biggest fan of Anime, so I'd be more interested in taking a more classical approach anyway (Conan, Beowulf, Cuchulain, that kind of thing). Still, I appreciate the insight!

I haven't read the setting portion of the book and I avoid the signature characters like the plague so what does this mean.

QuoteVolfer, the new Dawn sig. That his 'goods' are personally approved by the Scarlet Empress was a nice touch. I mean, if you're going into a teahouse filled with Mnemon House Guards, that's a damn good way of picking a fight.

If it means what I think it means shouldn't the Rpgnet fovum being going wild with calls of sexism in the game. He's also the one wearing the thong in public isn't he?  

To clarify the above quote is from the thread nexus lined above.

Quote from: Ryan L.;862717I haven't read the setting portion of the book and I avoid the signature characters like the plague so what does this mean.



If it means what I think it means shouldn't the Rpgnet fovum being going wild with calls of sexism in the game. He's also the one wearing the thong in public isn't he?  

To clarify the above quote is from the thread nexus lined above.

Its referring to this picture



That's the Dawn sig, Volfer and the symbol on his thong is the Imperial seal which could be seen as implying that his junk is personally approved and claimed by the Empress. The picture has frequently touted as being "awesome" (and doesn't make anyone embarrassed on the bus). It is not sexist (or silly, impractical, etc) because Volfer is a male. Volfer appears to be allergic to shirts in general.  As I said earlier, if he was female in a similar pose, dress or lack thereof, you'd see the flames from moon. I there's been griping about the new Night caste having bare legs in an other wise modest wardrobe and they've been bitching about Harmonious Jade for years

Quote from: Majus;862709Thanks both! I've had a quick look at the Godhound beta and it seems like it would do the trick nicely!

I also appreciate the tips on the previous editions. To be honest, I'm not committed to the idea of running Exalted necessarily, but was interested to hear that people were complimenting the new setting. I'm always up for hearing about interesting environments to game in, so was wondering what people thought of the new ideas.

Many of the setting changes with EX3 are pretty good (apart from adding 500 quadrillion new Exalted types; that really sucks, IMO). It's simply a matter of bang for your buck.  You'll get more out of the older stuff right now for a lot less, and you could always add in things like the Dreaming Sea from the new edition if you wanted to.

So far only one new thing has interested me setting wise (Palanquin) and that's mainly because it looks cool. The setting has gotten vastly bigger and the characters power level notched back so, in effect they feel smaller.

Adding a bunch of new types contributes to that feeling. "Exalted" started to feel synonymous with "adventurer" in D and D not like some epic title. They're allot of moderately large fish in a huge pond. I guess that goes with the "Its always been a game about being glowing Conan, not superhumans!" angle. The opening art and, AIU, the opening fiction depicts of teeming slum, after all. WoD with more of a special effects budget it is.

The new background/history seems to take the marginalization of the Solars a little further. Which should please the more deeply butthurt fans of the other splats, though might not be enough for the ones that piss and moan anytime Solars are actually depicted as the most powerful of the Exalted or even needed or relevant to the setting aside from being whack a mole targets for the Wyldhunt.

Quote from: Brand55;862728Many of the setting changes with EX3 are pretty good (apart from adding 500 quadrillion new Exalted types; that really sucks, IMO).

I hope they were being tongue in cheek about the Luminals being the results of a joke/bet about adding Prometheans to Creation.

I believe they are serious with that one Nexus.

Quote from: Nexus;86264160 pages?

And I wonder how much of that is fiction.

So most of the behemoth is crunch. I guess the antagonist list is somewhere in the middle.

And some of these guys are the same ones that still go on about "Bullet stopping" Hero System books.

The same ones who say Hero System requires too much bookkeeping and math.

JG

At least Hero system allows you to make up powers.  Hell hero handles a lot of settings and genres so of course the book is massive.

Exalted only covers one setting and you are stuck with those charms.

Quote from: James Gillen;862768The same ones who say Hero System requires too much bookkeeping and math.

JG

It uses fractions and multipliers of said math, so yes, it is pretty heavy on the book keeping.  However, it's still a much better and more solidly put together game engine, which as someone just pointed out doesn't limit you, but rather if you can figure it out, can pretty much allow you to make anything in any type of setting.

Exalted is a mess.  A GM hating, game breaking, barely playable without hand waving mess.

Quote from: James Gillen;862768The same ones who say Hero System requires too much bookkeeping and math.

JG

I stopped trying to make sense of that long ago. It was either that or start taking medication.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;862781It uses fractions and multipliers of said math, so yes, it is pretty heavy on the book keeping.

it isn't that Hero System is simple or "rules light" but the hypocrisy of complaining about its length and complexity while praising Exalted as if it was a breeze particularly late 2nd and 3rd edition . And frankly, compared to juggling hundreds of different rules exception packets I do think Hero is simpler.

Quote from: Nexus;862783And frankly, compared to juggling hundreds of different rules exception packets I do think Hero is simpler.

More straightforward, anyway.

Quote from: Nexus;862783it isn't that Hero System is simple or "rules light" but the hypocrisy of complaining about its length and complexity while praising Exalted as if it was a breeze particularly late 2nd and 3rd edition . And frankly, compared to juggling hundreds of different rules exception packets I do think Hero is simpler.

Oh, I agree completely.  Charms are worse than D&D Spells, which were the original exclusionary rules blocks, that don't interact with the rest of the system.