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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Skywalker

#1545
Quote from: Nexus;862345I always get a little smirk from how the designers put such store in how the game "realistically" emulates ancient and classical cultures but have a fan base that freaks out over (mostly female) nudity where many of the cultures emulated didn't have modern western hang ups about it.

Yeah. Even the listed modern inspiration for Exalted include many things that now seem taboo to Exalted fans.

Rather than clothing people, everyone should get naked and have fun; young and old; male and female; nobility and vagabond; warrior and wizard.

Spoiler

AsenRG

Quote from: Iron_Rain;861920Ok, so rather than just let other people think for me and work myself up into a righteous fury over nothing... I just went through the PDF and counted up all the art. In my estimation (not including weapons and armor) there are roughly ~168 pieces of art in the book, not including weapons & armor.

There are

7 pieces of art I think are just objectively bad.

4 pieces of art I think where something weird happened that messed up the quality.

Things like the dude in the thong are IMO - silly, but not actually bad per se.

I'm a data analyst, not an artist, but this is just my opinion - 1 piece of art in 15 needs replaced or fixed. Of course, one could make the argument that some of the art isn't necessarily doing what it should, and certainly, it looks like there was one main style of art with a few other dramatically different styles peppered in as well.

Not as bad as I thought.
I can remember more than 11 pieces of art without having read the non mechanical chapters, or checking the PDF.

Quote from: Nexus;862189It does seem like 4th Edition fans really like this game in general. At least the combat system.

I am by no means a 4e fan, as stated in the minus thread, and I like the combat system. At its core, it reminds me of what a Bulgarian homebrew system was doing. It was created by people I practiced martial arts with at the time, in order to represent extremely competent mortal characters, in the 2003 or so.
Well, except the homebrew was less than 10 pages long. But if it wasn't for it, I might have had more issues making sense of Ex3 combat system.

By the way, I like the Ex3 social system better.
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Quote from: Warboss Squee;862301Funny thing is, if the development crew wasn't playing things so close to the cbest and actually gave either previews or had some sort of open playtest, the rules issues could have been addressed long before it got to this point.

Instead we get this....mediocre attempt.

I will never understand NDAs for RPGs. No one is going to steal Onyx Path's 'fly new RPG technology'. And the cry of "But then we have to sift through all the complaints! And that'll make it baaaaad!" No, motherfuckers, you don't! You can sift through exactly what criticism you want. And if you know that certain people (like Jon Chung, say) have an eye towards useful criticism, you can privilege that more than some random guy screaming "EXLATED 3 wIll SUXXX00RS! D3ath to OP!!!!"

The leak was actually the best thing that could have happened to Ex3, if they'd bothered to listen to criticism of it. Instead they just pulled a Kevin Bacon, screaming "ALL IS WELL!!!" at the top of their lungs.

Don't get me wrong, I like the system. I have been playing the system. I will continue playing the system. It is an improvement over 2E. But it is not the third coming that was being bandied about. And it could have been BETTER.
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Baron Opal

Quote from: Skywalker;862359Yeah. Even the listed modern inspiration for Exalted include many things that now seem taboo to Exalted fans.

Rather than clothing people, everyone should get naked and have fun; young and old; male and female; nobility and vagabond; warrior and wizard.

Cool pic! Is that an early piece or more modern?

Skywalker

Quote from: Baron Opal;862421Cool pic! Is that an early piece or more modern?

It's of the Conan story Red Nails. Seemed very Exalted to me.

Skywalker

Quote from: Michael Gray;862396It is an improvement over 2E. But it is not the third coming that was being bandied about. And it could have been BETTER.

This is accurate. I would play 3e over 2e despite how much criticism I may give it. But the feeling of wasted opportunity mixed with knowing that there needs to be more books to round out 3e yet (and quality tends to drop over time) has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Nexus

Quote from: AsenRG;862393I

I am by no means a 4e fan, as stated in the minus thread, and I like the combat system.

Okay, But I didn't say only fans of 4th Ed DnD like the combat system just that it seems very popular among fans of that particular game. One of the developers (Holden, I believe) has mentioned that a similar feel was something they were going for so I guess that succeeded in that for allot of folks.
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Nexus

Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warboss Squee

Quote from: Nexus;862502Offered without comment.

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?769166-Isator-Levi-reads-Exalted-Third-Edition

I can't parse his lack of context or paragraphs.

It reads like a meth head's run on sentence.

Snowman0147

Quote from: Nexus;862502Offered without comment.

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?769166-Isator-Levi-reads-Exalted-Third-Edition

I thought I was god awful at grammar.  He needs to space out a bit so people can understand him.  Not even making shit up.  Just several posts that is a wall of useless text.  Talk about all noise and no signal.

Last if you say something is intriguing please give people some context on what is intriguing.  Just don't say, "This is intriguing," and just leave it as that.  I like to know what is intriguing.

JamesV

Holy cow, that is the platonic ideal of the TL;DR post. Add a section break somewhere, sir.
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Nexus

#1556
Not directly Exalted related but when you take into account who was banned, who did the banning its seems dodgy .

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?769225-Infraction-for-notanautomaton-6)-Two-Week-Ban
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Ryan L.

That has to be the gentlest personal attack in history.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Ryan L.;862556That has to be the gentlest personal attack in history.

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Quote from: Armchair Gamer;862558RPGNet makes a lot more sense when you realize that it's a government of moderators, not of rules. :)

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