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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Nexus

Quote from: squidheadjax;19497480The first reaction I got,  when showing it around,  was "ugly and sexist", actually.  It was the apparent partial sideboob (is there a better term for that) and the odd way the clothing generated it making it seem male-gazey, with the subject being FtM kinda making it worse.  It wasn't my first interpretation but now I can't un-see the way she read the details.

Interesting reaction to Prince Diamond being on the placeholder cover.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warboss Squee

Quote from: Nexus;861483Interesting reaction to Prince Diamond being on the placeholder cover.

I can't stop laughing. I might make myself sick at this point.

Ryan L.

It's just plain ugly. As far as covers go it isn't evocative in any way and I despise the blurred art style going on there. Tpose makes it look like the character is falling after being struck instead of standing in glory or whatever. I only I assume the glory part because I know what the Solar Exalted are the shining that's going on around the head.

There are several people acting as apologists for the first developers and it's sad even if it was expected. I'm going to run a free game of it online. I know I will, but I can't help shake my head at some of this.

Warboss Squee

Quote from: Ryan L.;861521It's just plain ugly. As far as covers go it isn't evocative in any way and I despise the blurred art style going on there. Tpose makes it look like the character is falling after being struck instead of standing in glory or whatever. I only I assume the glory part because I know what the Solar Exalted are the shining that's going on around the head.

There are several people acting as apologists for the first developers and it's sad even if it was expected. I'm going to run a free game of it online. I know I will, but I can't help shake my head at some of this.

If you do, please post a link. I'd love to follow along and see how it works.

Ryan L.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;861522If you do, please post a link. I'd love to follow along and see how it works.

No problem.

The item images in the back are atrocious. I don't know where the one person got 40% bad but I've seen little that's appealing in the art.

It's nice that more than one martial art is in the book and is part of the reason that the number of charm pages has bloomed. Though I dread actually delving into that part of the book.

Snowman0147

Good luck because you will need it.  I have a feeling it is going to be shit.

Warboss Squee

Holy rewrite Batman!

Ma-Ha-Suchi is back, with 100% less problematic or triggering content.

Nexus

Quote from: Ryan L.;861524No problem.

The item images in the back are atrocious. I don't know where the one person got 40% bad but I've seen little that's appealing in the art.

It's nice that more than one martial art is in the book and is part of the reason that the number of charm pages has bloomed. Though I dread actually delving into that part of the book.

I'd be interested in lurking too
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Nexus

Quote from: Warboss Squee;861516I can't stop laughing. I might make myself sick at this point.


"Quote Originally Posted by taichara View Post

Whereas I and folks I've shown it to think it's amazing. And seriously, if that's somehow a "sexist" image (because there's flesh at all? seriously, that's somehow terrible sideboob? I have to stare to even notice) then we're developing problems of massive knee-jerk levels.

Are any of the people you've shown it to trans men?

 Because I think they are probably the only ones whose opinions are relevant here. "
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

James Gillen

Quote from: Nexus;861453Considering how much they courted (and still do) the Social Justice crowd, acting surprised when this sort of thing happens comes across as incredibly naïve at best, straight disingenuous at worst.

You climbed on the tiger when it suited you so enjoy the ride.

In fairness most of the complaints seem to be about the editing job (which is poor) than the content itself. The "naked" girl under the table is amusing as her clothes seem to get skimpier each time someone describes it but she's wearing essentially the same outfit as the Master of Jade piece the picture seems based on.

And considerably more than Banana Hammock Barbarian the Exhibitionist Dawn.


Banana Hammock Exhibitionist Display!
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Nexus

And I know that if this image



With the style, same composition, same expressions, same everything except the central figure had breasts it not only wouldn't be in the awesome art thread the flames of outrage would be so bright that four years from now they'd be complaining about the glare around Proxima Centauri
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Mostlyjoe

The poser art makes me grind my teeth.

James Gillen

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-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Brand55

The art made me burst out laughing. With the budget they had, the absolute worst piece should have still been very good. I think the horrific censoring job they did on the Scarlet Princess was the worst, and it just exposes the double standards they have when it comes to male and female characters. Apparently guys can run around with their junk flopping in people's faces, but heaven forbid anyone see a flash of female thigh.

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Nexus;861405It amazes me that there's complaints that people are focusing on the art instead of the system.

WHy should they complain about the system?  It's just another 2e rewrite, which is what they really wanted anyway, no matter what the monkeys screeched from their trees.  They'd have to fling their shit at each other, rather than the book at that point.  And no one really wants to be covered in crap in public.
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