RE: The now infamous art on page 153.

Looks like the cover of one of those super sleazy fetish ebooks you can buy at Amazon.com for buck*. Proposed title, Cakeslut Discipline!

*Not that I've ever bought one. Or several.

There's lots of pretty in the book too:

The art seems okay. Even the Poser one, honestly, but its not my vision of Exalted. But generally, I don't care that much about art one way or another.

Someone posted charm trees for a few abilities.

Holy shit it's convoluted.

Quote from: Skywalker;861351There's lots of pretty in the book too,

I totally agree, it's just the eyesores tend to stick out. As a matter of fact, I think that spread was a strong start. Ever heard of Kowloon Walled City? The piece reminds me of the pictures I've seen of that place, turned up to 11. That is very Exalted.

Quote from: Nexus;861343I do wonder just how many of the mods work or freelance for OP.

I've been callin' that place the Unofficial Official White Wolf Forums for years.  And I think the answer is all of them.

Man, there is no forgiving bad art over there

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?768604-Exalted-3e-Laugh-at-bad-(and-illegal)-art-from-the-Exalted-pdf

So someone maxe a starting character using the backer pdf and the end result?

A character that would have easily fit into a 2nd edition game with zero conversion.

Didn't they learn this shit from Hunter: The Vigil?  Seriously wtf is with these guys picking up stolen art?  For that matter why in the did they use poser art?  Poser never looks good.  Can't even believe this shit.

In fairness, here's the good art thread.

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?768611-Show-us-awesome-Exalted-3-art-pretty-please!

I know I've beat this drum allot in the past but you gotta love how the pic of the Dawn sig fighting in nothing but a banana hammock is awesome and good beefcake (and for the record I've got nothing against the picture. Equal opportunity eye candy, I say) but the picture of the Empress showing some leg (like she was sitting in a slitted gown, not a Sharon Stone upskirt) or the "half naked" (dressed in clothes that you'd see on any beach or summer afternoon in a warm area) drew vehement protests (the Empress picture to the extent they did a piss poor edit which is hated and now people are saying they had no problem with the original...).

Quote from: Warboss Squee;861362So someone maxe a starting character using the backer pdf and the end result?

A character that would have easily fit into a 2nd edition game with zero conversion.

So all the claims of "rebuilt from the ground up" were total bullshit as we all knew all along.

It amazes me that there's complaints that people are focusing on the art instead of the system. Of course they are. You can see the art immediately. The system is hundreds of pages of rules and rules exceptions. The PDFs were just sent out yesterday afternoon.

No one's digested that hunk of RAW yet unless they read the leak (Which has gone from being almost totally different to a an important sentence changed here and there) which No True Fan did, of course. It never fails the default response to criticism of Exalted is find some way to blame it on the fanbase. Its like a religion Any failings can be put on the adherents for being lax in their devotion or weak in faith*.

*Or the false prophets the taught the heresy of a previous Edition.

Quote from: Kiero;861402So all the claims of "rebuilt from the ground up" were total bullshit as we all knew all along.

The claims of extensive changes between the last leak and final document are looking dubious too.

Quote from: Kiero;861402So all the claims of "rebuilt from the ground up" were total bullshit as we all knew all along.

The claims of extensive changes between the last leak and final document are looking dubious too.

I can't believe they actually resorted to Poser art to fill the gaps. You usually don't see that shit outside of zero-budget small press stuff and deeply pathetic CGI porn.

I also can't believe they went for the "naked woman cowering under the cakes" artwork. Regardless of how you feel about the recurring arguments about sexism/cheesecake in gaming artwork, it should be obvious to everyone that the Exalted fanbase are not keen on it - or at least the Exalted fanbase as represented on RPG.net, and you don't really want to be alienating one of your loudest and most visible groups of advocates for your game, especially when there's already controversy about the Kickstarter being late.

"Know Your Audience" is a basic rule of putting out creative work commercially, and usually OP are really good at that, so it's genuinely surprising to me that they've misjudged the art that badly. Then again, so far as I can make out the Exalted team seem to be the dysfunctional underachievers of the OP family compared to what their other creative groups are putting out.

Considering how much they courted (and still do) the Social Justice crowd, acting surprised when this sort of thing happens comes across as incredibly naïve at best, straight disingenuous at worst.

You climbed on the tiger when it suited you so enjoy the ride.

In fairness most of the complaints seem to be about the editing job (which is poor) than the content itself. The "naked" girl under the table is amusing as her clothes seem to get skimpier each time someone describes it but she's wearing essentially the same outfit as the Master of Jade piece the picture seems based on.

And considerably more than Banana Hammock Barbarian the Exhibitionist Dawn.