Quote from: Warboss Squee;734463One would hope. As it is, I can see more uses for them than the not-Prometheans and not-Siderials.

A charm design system/guidelines would be frankly one of the most useful things in the line.

Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;734480A charm design system/guidelines would be frankly one of the most useful things in the line.

Well, that and aryifact design rules that don't boil down to 'make shit up'.

Personally I have always felt trying to make nearly everything playable was a mistake. It put allot of strain on a system that was already unsteady, gave a company not particularly well known for intricate mechanics the job of trying to keep several "classes" and hundreds of effects functional and balanced. Then there were the narrative issue of trying to make all sides morally "equal" so no one who wanted to play a particular group was "made" to play a villain. It turned into a muddled mess.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;732965This is of course a lie; I challenge you to actually FIND any rules buried in those love letters to Naruto that they pass off as rulebooks

As a shameless weeaboo, I direly wish this were the case

As it is, Exalted can't even hold a candle to something like Tenra Bansho Zero, setting-wise. Exalted is about as anime as World of Warcraft (and likely takes more of its actual inspiration from there, despite claims otherwise).

Quote from: Shauncat;734996As a shameless weeaboo

Why wait for Exalted 3 ? (I am kidding, I totally understand the growing imaptience of the backers, even if I'm not one of them) If you like Exalted, you must have a truckload of books from the earlier editions, hack it with the 13th Age (the Archmage engine SRD will do the trick if you don't want to buy the 13th Age book). Forge demi-gods ! Shape Creation ! Be Exalted !

This thread might be of interest.
 
It's over on That Other RPG Forum.

Okay, sorry, that was basically a waste of time. The same hype that anyone that's followed Exalted has been over and over again more "Its awesome, more awsomer than anything else ever! Trust us..." with no precious few actual details on -whats- awesome and with a light dusting of arrogance and shitting all over other systems and playstyles.

So, your typical Exalted hype thread. Nothing to see here.

Quote from: Nexus;735771Okay, sorry, that was basically a waste of time. The same hype that anyone that's followed Exalted has been over and over again more "Its awesome, more awsomer than anything else ever! Trust us..." with no precious few actual details on -whats- awesome and with a light dusting of arrogance and shitting all over other systems and playstyles.

So, your typical Exalted hype thread. Nothing to see here.

Which is a damn shame, because they were teasing out some interesting points.

I was interested to hear that 3rd edition is going for a "momentum" system in combat whereby instead of whittling down your opponent bit by bit each combat round, instead you're trying to build up momentum which, once you've built up enough, you can unleash to devastating effect. That sounds like an interesting way to simulate fights where people trade blows to little apparent effect until someone finds an opening to get a killing blow in, like you get in martial arts movies, though equally Exalted has never really felt enough like a conventional martial arts setting for me to use it for such a purpose.

People are also asking awkward questions like "how the hell are you supposed to make up NPCs on the fly in this system?", which is heartening.

The Momentum stuff is interesting but its one fo the few mechanical details that they've deigned to share with us it was released months ago. Maybe I'm acting pissy but I'm starting to feel a little jerked around. It's all the same hype as the last editions (some of it seems to even contradict what we were told initially), almost 0 mechanical information and more promises that it'll be awesome, trust us!  Post some solid information or finish and release the dame game. Enough with the teasers, already.

Quote from: Nexus;735771Okay, sorry, that was basically a waste of time. The same hype that anyone that's followed Exalted has been over and over again more "Its awesome, more awsomer than anything else ever! Trust us..." with no precious few actual details on -whats- awesome and with a light dusting of arrogance and shitting all over other systems and playstyles.

So, your typical Exalted hype thread. Nothing to see here.

Yeah, I saw that. There is umm very little of anything in it. That's being quite kind to the developers.

Although the 2 hour comment is interesting in its vagueness. I wonder if they mean the rules require two is hours of study for you to get start. Or it takes two hours to make a character. Or if it takes two hours to prep a group on playing the game.

Quote from: Warthur;735821Which is a damn shame, because they were teasing out some interesting points.

I was interested to hear that 3rd edition is going for a "momentum" system in combat whereby instead of whittling down your opponent bit by bit each combat round, instead you're trying to build up momentum which, once you've built up enough, you can unleash to devastating effect. That sounds like an interesting way to simulate fights where people trade blows to little apparent effect until someone finds an opening to get a killing blow in, like you get in martial arts movies, though equally Exalted has never really felt enough like a conventional martial arts setting for me to use it for such a purpose.

People are also asking awkward questions like "how the hell are you supposed to make up NPCs on the fly in this system?", which is heartening.

The questions are quite satisfying. There are some softball questions but even they are ummm not being handled well. This kinda comes back to one of my earlier thoughts that these guys desperately need a PR person. They need someone desperately who can actually communicate and say things. someone who isn't inside the developers bubble and can translate.

I do like the idea of the momentum system. But I'm really afraid it will become just another thing I have to keep track of. In a game with several things to keep track of as it is.

Over the years some attitudes among the Exalted fanbase and staff have become really grating. One of them is the idea that Exalted "invented" high action cinematic play, that no other game emphasizes it or even capable of it and that's what makes Exalted "special". And that 'tude is very apparent in that thread. And particularly ironic since in the last two iterations of the mechanics if you played that way you ended either handwaving most things or actively fighting the system to pull it off.

Quote from: DisgruntleFairy;735974The questions are quite satisfying. There are some softball questions but even they are ummm not being handled well. This kinda comes back to one of my earlier thoughts that these guys desperately need a PR person.

It's fucking hilarious that they can still fuck things up when they've had free access and control of the biggest general RPG board out there for years.

Jesus, half the staff at RPGnet are, or were, WW staffers and writers.

It's free gravy and they still manage to shit in it.

Quote from: One Horse Town;736042It's fucking hilarious that they can still fuck things up when they've had free access and control of the biggest general RPG board out there for years.

Jesus, half the staff at RPGnet are, or were, WW staffers and writers.

It's free gravy and they still manage to shit in it.

What bothers me even more is that the Developer stopped posting in his own hype thread after a day! None of the other developers picked it up and continued it or bothered to even show up. I know you visit the forum because two of the primary writers of the book are moderators on that forum! If Hatewheel couldn't continue the thread one of the others should have.

If you cant manage to build good will (or hang around) in your own threads that you start then something is wrong. How are people supposed to trust you and your development skills when you cant answer simple boilerplate questions well or show up?

I found the question about "what do you do in this game?" and resulting non-answers interesting (IIRC the first answer was just "you play one of the Exalted"). Ultimately I think some people are possibly being a bit disingenuous with the re-asking of the question - as a non-Exalted player it looks to me from what's been said so far that the answer is simply that there isn't a default mode of play for Exalted. Which is a perfectly reasonable answer, if a non-optimal one (as you're then basically falling back on either setting mastery or strong pre-game player-defined goals to drive play).