Evolution of the Kobold, which do you prefer

Silverlion · August 23, 2012, 07:20:15 PM

I always preferred 1E "dog face" kobolds, as opposed to reptilian Chihuahuas

mcbobbo · August 23, 2012, 08:31:02 PM

Quote from: beeber;575893grew up with the 1e/moldvay basic version, but actually like the 3e redesign more.

This, but I always kept the dog-like behaviors, like the yipping.

Kuroth · August 23, 2012, 08:56:08 PM

While I might have once said AD&D 1, I have run campaigns with the 4th edition thralls of dragons to very great effect, with the whole aspect that they worship living creatures, dragons, as the embodiments of their gods. It adds a component to dragons too. I was very pleased with the whole scheme in 4th edition for these creatures.

Even Gygax had different ideas of how to interpret these creatures, depending upon the campaign. The Kobolds in Lejendary Adventures are VERY different from the D&D versions.

beeber · August 24, 2012, 01:01:00 AM

Quote from: mcbobbo;575960This, but I always kept the dog-like behaviors, like the yipping.

yeah, make it a little more like the chirping of the velociraptors in jurassic park, and instant player freakout, heh heh

RPGPundit · August 25, 2012, 02:11:23 PM

I like them as little dogmen.

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talysman · August 25, 2012, 03:56:19 PM

I like them as just another variety of goblin (OD&D version.) Not exciting visually, but why can't you vary humanoids culturally instead of stat-wise?

VectorSigma · August 25, 2012, 04:12:21 PM

I have always preferred dog-kobolds to lizard-kobolds, although I do like some of the latter-day lizard-kobold artwork.

In my campaign, kobolds are reskinned as no-apologies dog-men.

http://wampuscountry.blogspot.com/2012/07/its-dogs-life.html

The Butcher · August 25, 2012, 04:22:25 PM

Big fan of kobolds as hairless little dog-men and Tony DiTerlizzi's illo.

Quote from: J Arcane;575930I prefer the Kobolds Ate My Baby version.

All hail King Torg!

AClockworkMelon · August 25, 2012, 09:45:32 PM

I'm fond of the 3e look, but that's the version I grew up with.

David Johansen · August 25, 2012, 10:01:13 PM

I view them as little balls of combat hell. Fast, agile, and vicious. Think Yoda in Attack of the Clones only it's not because he's a Jedi it's because he's a Kobold.

But then I was young when I read "Magic Kingdom For Sale: Sold" wherein two Kobolds are enough to give a big dragon second thoughts.

Dan Davenport · August 26, 2012, 01:28:25 AM

If I remember correctly, the 1e kobold was one of many creatures modeled on a collection of cheap plastic Japanese monster toys.

Elfdart · September 03, 2012, 07:17:59 AM

My idea of what orcs, goblins and kobolds look like comes from the A-series modules, which were illustrated by Willingham, Roslof and Dee (the kobold is in the middle row on the right):

I prefer to think of kobolds (little red guy on the right) as little goblins with vestigial tails. Here's a pic by Roslof from the trading card set:

Ronin · September 03, 2012, 12:09:56 PM

I like the 3e version, with the 2e a close second. Lizard, dog their both neat in their own respects.

Ronin · September 03, 2012, 12:12:58 PM

Quote from: Doom;575917They all have their charms, but making them reptilian was a good example of how new stuff can be cool.

Still, I rather wish there was an electric blue race of the things.

So why not make one? Its not like you have to restat them. Course you could give them some electro, or speed power. To throw a curve ball at your players. "Oh, its just a bunch of blue colored kobolds." to "Oh Shit! Its a bunch of blue kobolds!"