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Every time I look at Sauron, I think "Death Knight". Do You?

Started by Jam The MF, August 11, 2021, 06:47:28 PM

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August 11, 2021, 06:47:28 PM Last Edit: August 11, 2021, 06:50:11 PM by Jam The MF
Am I the only one who instantly associates that with Sauron?  Or maybe an AntiPaladin?

Especially the scene where he is just wiping the battlefield with his Mace.  That is so epic.
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Chris24601

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August 11, 2021, 07:23:07 PM Last Edit: August 11, 2021, 07:26:29 PM by Chris24601
I guess he could wield a mace, but I see Teradactyl-Man way more than Death Knight...



;D

Jam The MF

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August 11, 2021, 08:31:27 PM Last Edit: August 11, 2021, 08:33:47 PM by Jam The MF
Evil living creatures feel drawn to join and serve Sauron.  The Nazgul, undead human kings are bound; and serve Sauron.  Lesser evil creatures are drawn to him.

At your RPG gaming table, how would you classify Sauron?

He might also choose to carry a Mace, because other undead creatures are often susceptible to Bludgeoning damage.
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Ratman_tf

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August 11, 2021, 08:45:38 PM
I mostly think about the scene in the tale of Beren and Luthien when Sauron fought the Hound, Huan, and shape shifted into all kinds of crazy stuff to try and win. A werewolf (lots of werewolves in the 1st and 2nd ages) a serpent, etc, until he finally was defeated. He also actually talked to people like when he tricked the kings of Numenor into worship of Morgoth.

Sauron in the 3rd age is so remote that he's more of a McGuffin than a character.
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Philotomy Jurament

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August 11, 2021, 09:19:23 PM
QuoteEvery time I look at Sauron, I think "Death Knight." Do you?

Nope. Can't say I've ever thought that.
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Jam The MF

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August 11, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
I want the One Ring to rule them all.  I must have it.  My Precious!!!

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, And in the darkness bind them!!!
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Null42

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August 11, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
Supposedly Lord Soth was inspired by Darth Vader...

palaeomerus

#7
August 11, 2021, 11:02:53 PM
Darth Vader was inspired by Lighting a masked enemy pilot from a serial and by Dr. Doom according to Lucas. Also originally he was supposed to be a charming middle aged gentleman who only occasionally showed signs of how sinister he was who took his helmet off after his troops boarded the ship from outside but Lucas and company liked the masks and helmets thing so they revamped the character as a masked mystery serial villain type and made Storm Troopers always helmet-on early in production.

An early version of the radio play has the gentleman villain version of Vader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-29uKdckL4
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Jam The MF

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August 11, 2021, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: Null42 on August 11, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
Supposedly Lord Soth was inspired by Darth Vader...

Darth Vader.  Another favorite big bad of mine.  He had to lean on the force, and it strengthened his connection.  Such rage and hatred.  The black suit.  The red light saber.  It's quite an image.  The scene at the end of Rogue One, is priceless.  It's like a Ginsu knife commercial.
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insubordinate polyhedral

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August 11, 2021, 11:29:08 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on August 11, 2021, 06:47:28 PM
Am I the only one who instantly associates that with Sauron?  Or maybe an AntiPaladin?

Especially the scene where he is just wiping the battlefield with his Mace.  That is so epic.

To me, Sauron is a class of his own. Darth Vader, too. When I think death knight, I think Arthas Menethil from WarCraft III (uh, spoilers for 20 year old game). "Knight" and "paladin" both serve some greater thing, a lord, a king, a belief, a deity. Sauron is his own master, and Vader overthrows his. Even when Vader was a servant in title, he didn't seem very servile. He tells Kenobi that "[Vader] has become the master", too. Hmm.

thedungeondelver

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August 11, 2021, 11:47:53 PM
Sauron is an agent of Morgoth (Satan); he'd be a major demon, not some piddling Death Knight.
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August 12, 2021, 01:16:34 AM
Quote from: thedungeondelver on August 11, 2021, 11:47:53 PM
Sauron is an agent of Morgoth (Satan); he'd be a major demon, not some piddling Death Knight.
THIS! But please, call him Melkor- it's a much more accurate name for one as mighty as him!   ;D

Prairie Dragon

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August 12, 2021, 06:34:32 AM
I think 'Fallen' Grand Druid.  Sauron's followers are also fallen Druids.  Sauron chose the One Ring over the Cycle of Life and 'Fell'.

Da pig o’ War

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August 12, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver on August 11, 2021, 11:47:53 PM
Sauron is an agent of Morgoth (Satan); he'd be a major demon, not some piddling Death Knight.

Yeah man.  I was thinking a fallen angel who essentially descended to satan's throne

palaeomerus

#14
August 12, 2021, 08:42:32 PM
I mean...you can see that the death knights are basically rip offs of nazguls right?

The Fiend Folio said there were 12, they were fallen paladins, they ride on nightmares, have heavy spell resistance, can cause spells to rebound on caster sometimes, can control undead like a cleric, can cast a big fireball and a few other spells. Might have something to do with Demogorgon.  Basically the high level fighter version of a lich.

And the guy talking about fallen druids...explaining Tolkien in terms of Terry Brooks is a warcrime in some parts of the world. Like Walmart and Pizza Hut.

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