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ENWorld experiences financial trouble

Started by Benoist, September 25, 2009, 09:08:23 PM

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Quote from: Tetsubo;334236At one time I was an ENWorld supporter. Than the Great 4E Assimilation took place. I left shortly after that and haven't returned. Disenfranchising many of your users seemed like a poor decision at the time. I seem to have been correct in that regard. I now post to a number of different forums rather than one as I did in the past. I look forward to the Pathfinder boards getting an update though. They currently just suck.

Ditto, basically.  I will just add that basically ENWorld got in bed with WOTC and 4e, and supported a system that doesn't lend itself to anyone else making money off if it.  The system along with DDI is designed to stifle 3pp's.  ENWorld is a form of 3pp.  They tied their horse to the wrong wagon.
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thedungeondelver

I'm sure someone will run up with a basket full of money and keep the place going.  This is much ado about nothing.
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Melan

Quote from: Nazgul;334191Then you have the fact that people have less money to spend of game stuff now. Goes from "Hey I've got an extra $50 to blow on games this week" to "Hey I've got $20 to spend on games this month"
That must be a huge problem. Impulse buys are hard to justify in the current climate, and the things Morrus mentioned fall in that category.

Good luck to them.
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Seanchai

Quote from: Tetsubo;334236Than the Great 4E Assimilation took place.

That must have been after I left as before them (right after the GSL was released), ENWorld was decidedly anti-4e.

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Benoist

Quote from: Koltar;334209And EnWorld is supposedly important ?

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Why is it  a big deal?


I doubt most gamers I see week in /week out have even heard of or browsed EnWorld.
Sure, I doubt the gamers you see week after week even heard of ENWorld, but the site happens to be one of the largest TRPGs gathering on the internet. Or at least it was a few years ago (I have no idea what the state of things are now).

It is significant in that sense.

It is also significant when considering the money gamers visiting message boards online are willing to spend, how, on which items etc, like other posters have pointed out upthread.

AND/OR, it's significant given the way the ENWorld community evolved with the D&D edition change, like other posters have also pointed out.

We have no way to know what exactly happened, but it's significant in our little corner of the web, for sure.

Melan

Not to mention ENWorld has a long-long history - even I have a few hundred posts over there, and I mostly lurked. It is a piece of the message board culture.
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brettmb

The site is so slow that I don't even visit it. I wouldn't miss it if it closed down. It's not even usable now as it is.

Zachary The First

It is slow--but I thought that was something that was getting fixed?

Best of luck to them, in any case.  I'm not a frequent visitor, but I don't want anyone to lose their online home.
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Quote from: Zachary The First;334270It is slow--but I thought that was something that was getting fixed?
It's been getting fixed for 5 years now.

Tetsubo

Quote from: Melan;334255That must be a huge problem. Impulse buys are hard to justify in the current climate, and the things Morrus mentioned fall in that category.

Good luck to them.

I satisfy that urge by buying used stuff off of Amazon. I've paid as little as $2 for a hardcover D20 book. Rarely do I pay more than $6. Even with shipping it's less than $10.

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Tetsubo

Quote from: Joethelawyer;334241Ditto, basically.  I will just add that basically ENWorld got in bed with WOTC and 4e, and supported a system that doesn't lend itself to anyone else making money off if it.  The system along with DDI is designed to stifle 3pp's.  ENWorld is a form of 3pp.  They tied their horse to the wrong wagon.

The whole 'it's our ball and we're going home' attitude of 4E bugs the crap out of me. Everybody has a better time if the ball is usable by everyone.

T. Foster

My interest in ENWorld died with Gary Gygax, which is to say the long-running "Gygax Q&A" series of threads was what got me to visit the site on a regular basis and once I was there I'd usually browse around other threads and post an occasional response (which eventually added up to ~900 posts). Between Gary's absence and the release of 4E shortly thereafter, I saw less and less reason to visit the site because there are enough other sites that are more closely aligned with my interests (and that load a whole lot more quickly). I've only been to ENWorld maybe a half dozen times in the last year, almost all of them following a link posted on another board, and don't think I've posted there since sometime in 2008.

Of course I wasn't a Community Supporter and don't think I ever bought anything from their pdf store, so my absence isn't exactly hurting them, and if anything is doing them a service by reducing their server-load ;)
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I've never been a big fan of ENWorld, but if their financial troubles mean the dissolution of The Creature Catalog then I will be sad to see it go. I've gotten a lot of use in my 3.x games out of that site.
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