Quote from: Krimson;905117Amusingly last week I had a package that said it was out for delivery... 2200 miles away on the other side of the continent. I contacted Amazon and they said it would be redirected and I would receive it that afternoon. I was like "Yeah right" and yet when I got home, the package was there waiting for me. No idea how they managed that.

My guess would be that they redirected an identical item that was already nearby.

Quote from: AsenRG;905030Yes, delays count. But even fucking Amazon experience delays! (Not for long, but they do - it happened with the delivery of my Eclipse Phase book).

Maybe this would help you, I don't know. Anyway, I have two very simple rules on KS.

"Never pledge more money on KS then half of what I'm comfortable just sending to The Red Cross".
"If I ever get ripped off on a KS, I'll send the same sum to the Red Cross as soon as I give up".
Clear enough? I'm either getting something for it, or it is all charity.
What these rules ensure is that I'm never going to feel hurt, ripped-off, or anything.
BTW, I've never had to refer to the second rule;).


If it's the same site I'm thinking of, the answer was "7-10k unique views/month". You can do the math.

If I did that, I wouldn't get past the average first tier of 5 bucks USD!  And no, I have a personal philosophy of only buying something that is complete, not throwing money at promises.

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;9051142. This is a good way to look at it. I've never participated in a KS, but if I do I'll make sure to keep this strategy in mind.

Shemek

I always ask myself "If nothing happened how much would the loss of money hurt?"  That's why I rarely pledge more than the minimum amount to get the PDFs.

Quote from: yosemitemike;905127My guess would be that they redirected an identical item that was already nearby.

Yeah, this. They put in a recall order for the other item and sent you a different one from a different, more local distribution center. Can easily put a rush order on that sort of thing, if there's one nearby.

And lots of people have literally local Amazon distro centers, at least in the USA. I know for sure there's one about 150 miles from me, and there's at least a small one handling PRIME NOW orders in town.

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;9051141. I can attest to that as well. My copy of Bethorm ("will arrive in 2-4 business days") took fucking 2 weeks to get to me, due to dishonesty and incompetence on Amazon's part. BTW, for what it's worth, they have  some of the worst customer service reps I've ever encountered.

2. This is a good way to look at it. I've never participated in a KS, but if I do I'll make sure to keep this strategy in mind.

Shemek

Well, at least my package was late due to an extreme climatic phenomenon...

And it's not too late yet to lure you to the Dark Side of KS:)!

Quote from: Christopher Brady;905128If I did that, I wouldn't get past the average first tier of 5 bucks USD!  And no, I have a personal philosophy of only buying something that is complete, not throwing money at promises.

You'd never send the Red Cross more than $5? Seriously?

I wouldn't want to waste more words if you confirm that this is really the case;).

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;905135I always ask myself "If nothing happened how much would the loss of money hurt?"  That's why I rarely pledge more than the minimum amount to get the PDFs.

I pledge for PDFs because the shipping tends to suck, and because I lack space. Then again, I've pledged for different projects at a higher level, too. So it all depends on a case-by-case basis.
People that make it all a matter of principle are actually muddying the waters, IMO.

Well, for all that I love to complain about things, and for all that I love poking at Anon (because he's posting on this forum), Most of my kickstarter backing turns out just fine.  I've backed over 250 projects, and of that number I think 10 of them won't ever deliver - and that includes ones I backed back in 2010 when no one knew what to look for as warning signs for kickstarters, Gareth Skarka's ongoing crash, and a couple of cases of people's lives just crashing.  (One due to chronic illness, another person (a really early comic book) whose life just nose-died).

On the other hand I've gotten some really neat stuff out of it - I'm still drooling over the huge number of minis I got from Zombicide: Black Plague, I've made my wife happier by getting her a few train-games (Rolling Freight, although late, was a great addition to our library), I helped make a classic Origami book get a second edition, Deadlands Noir was the start to my long string of getting great games from Pinnacle... really, there's a lot of great stuff I've gotten.  It's sometimes a bit late, but I've almost always gotten it.  I'll admit there's some stuff I got that I probably shouldn't have backed and supported in the excitement of the moment, but I'm working on slowing down from doing that - but on the other hand, I've bought stuff in the store that I've gotten home and realized was a poor buy too.

It's not for everyone, but I'm happy with my addiction, and I can stop at any time.  Honest.  Oooooh... look at that one...

Quote from: AsenRG;905179I pledge for PDFs because the shipping tends to suck, and because I lack space. Then again, I've pledged for different projects at a higher level, too. So it all depends on a case-by-case basis.
People that make it all a matter of principle are actually muddying the waters, IMO.

Depends on the principle.  My principle is "don't pledge money that I'm not willing to lose."  Of course, I've only backed 5 or 6 kickstarters anyway, mostly because I really don't want most of the stuff.  I pledged a bit to Girl Genius because I like it, I pledged to Gaxmoor and Hobby Shop Dungeon because I like Luke and Ernie and Ben, and I pledged to Kobolds Ate My Baby because I wanted the game.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;905240Depends on the principle.  My principle is "don't pledge money that I'm not willing to lose."  Of course, I've only backed 5 or 6 kickstarters anyway, mostly because I really don't want most of the stuff.  I pledged a bit to Girl Genius because I like it, I pledged to Gaxmoor and Hobby Shop Dungeon because I like Luke and Ernie and Ben, and I pledged to Kobolds Ate My Baby because I wanted the game.

I think you know what I mean by the "people that make it a matter of principle", Gronan, and your example doesn't really pertain to that:).

You'd almost think there was an element of sarcasm in that post.

Ah, people assuming that they will understand the tone of the intended post, or not make up their own tone.  So cute!

But frankly, it really has all been said, hasn't it?

Captain Whiny needs to buckle up, put both hands on the wheel, and make a product that people want to buy, instead of complaining as to why he can't do what he wants for the price he wants.

There's nothing left to add to this.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;905428Ah, people assuming that they will understand the tone of the intended post, or not make up their own tone.  So cute!

But frankly, it really has all been said, hasn't it?

Captain Whiny needs to buckle up, put both hands on the wheel, and make a product that people want to buy, instead of complaining as to why he can't do what he wants for the price he wants.

There's nothing left to add to this.

well we could sit around and wine about random things till the thread gets closed
#its a joke

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;905425You'd almost think there was an element of sarcasm in that post.

Who would think of such an awful thing:)?

Quote from: kosmos1214;905442well we could sit around and wine about random things till the thread gets closed
#its a joke

Sitting around with a bottle of wine sounds like a lovely idea.  Grab some glasses while you're up.

Quote from: jcfiala;905855Sitting around with a bottle of wine sounds like a lovely idea.  Grab some glasses while you're up.

Ok cheep red or cheep white i just picked some up from my local aldi.

Quote from: Krimson;905017On a related note I saw an add for writing game articles. The fellow offered to pay 20 cents per 100 views of the article with $1 bonus per 1000 views. Now my first question would be how many views is this site getting, but of course my natural reaction would be, "My real job pays me $23 an hour. Why on Earth would I want to write RPG material for anyone but myself?"

Whether that's a good deal as an article-writer would depend on just how major the site is, not the writer, typically. I mean, in terms of articles I wrote in the past, that could have gotten me anything from $2 to $900, which is quite a range.