Quote from: flyingmiceExactly. It's your property, you can sell it. You just can't sell it more than once. Feel free to sell any of my stuff you have, if you have a customer.

I won't sell something I got for free.   That's just not right in my book

Quote from: flyingmiceI didn't know you long enough to become a good friend, but I liked your style, GM! We'll miss you!

-clash

Thanks Clash, I really appreciate that

Have you considered trying to go back to basics instead?

If gaming isn't fun for you anymore, you may want to figure out what it is that really isn't fun?
It might not be the dichotomy between playing/GMing. It could be that you need to simplify the way you play the game.  What was the game you played back when, the game that you loved?

You may want to try simplifying the way you play, instead of making it too serious.

RPGPundit

Quote from: flyingmiceExactly. It's your property, you can sell it. You just can't sell it more than once. Feel free to sell any of my stuff you have, if you have a customer.

Obviously not with yours as you'd likely know about it, but sometimes with an electronic form item you buy an explicitly non-transferable license rather than the item itself. That said I've never noticed any such wording for an RPG PDF, but then again I've never looked that closely.

@ Geek Messiah: You've obviously thought this through, so I'm not going to suggest you not quit. But I will share that I've been in and around that place a couple of times myself. However I've always mananged to find a new take on things, usually by a good, long reflection about why I did enough enjoy it before, what I might enough in the future, and what's become a 'cockblock' on my enjoyment of playing. Doing such has resulted in things like a total shake-up of who I'm gaming with, how much I play, conscious choice of expectations, and certainly what I'm playing. The later not limited in choice to "RPG" or excluding what I've considered/tried in the past and turned away from.  All a process that could take months, and likely best relagated to the background while life is lived.

Anyway, take care....and make sure to get that thread up so us vultures can pick the bones clean.

Quote from: blakkieObviously not with yours as you'd likely know about it, but sometimes with an electronic form item you buy an explicitly non-transferable license rather than the item itself. That said I've never noticed any such wording for an RPG PDF, but then again I've never looked that closely.

Non-transferable licences are the devils tools. It's my belief they are illegal - particularly since most of them don't tell you until you've purchased the license/product - you can't read the terms and conditions until you've opened the shrinkwrap, and you can't open the shrinkwrap without buying the product.

Anyway, I've never seen such a license on a pdf, never even conceived that any RPG company would be that evil. Kill puppies for satan? Sure! Measure your anal circumfrence? Why not! Ignite a Racial Holy War? Happens all the time! But shrinkwrap licenses... Never!

-clash

Quote from: flyingmiceNon-transferable licences are the devils tools. It's my belief they are illegal - particularly since most of them don't tell you until you've purchased the license/product - you can't read the terms and conditions until you've opened the shrinkwrap, and you can't open the shrinkwrap without buying the product.

True that. Mass retail licenses have a very spotty history when put to the test of the courts.

Which I guess is why the most common place for such things to be and actually actively enforced is high cost, niche market items where the price can justify the required person-to-person contact, contractual signings, and mechanisms for enforcement.

Quote from: RPGPunditHave you considered trying to go back to basics instead?

If gaming isn't fun for you anymore, you may want to figure out what it is that really isn't fun?
It might not be the dichotomy between playing/GMing. It could be that you need to simplify the way you play the game.  What was the game you played back when, the game that you loved?

You may want to try simplifying the way you play, instead of making it too serious.

RPGPundit

The game the started it all was Battletech (more of a board game then an rpg I know) and I had it and sold it recently.   After trying to play it I was like "Eh".

I think its just total burnout and there is really no recovering.  It's best to move on.  I had 18 good years out of the hobby.

Quote from: blakkieAnyway, take care....and make sure to get that thread up so us vultures can pick the bones clean.

I see who my freinds are.  The vultures are already flying low   (Just kidding)

Man, how many times does this hapen... and then the guy comes slinking back.

Gareth-Michael Skarka, Gleichmann, a zillion others.

"I'm leaving."
"Okay. Bye."
"For good! Never coming back!"
"Rightyo. Bye."
"..."
"Yes?"
"I mean it!"
"We believe you. See you around."
"I'm opening the door to leave, now."
"Go through quickly, you're letting the wind in."
"I'm closing the door behind me now."
"Bye."
Through the window: "You bastards! Why didn't you beg me to stay!"

A year later: "Let me tell you about my 25th level drowlesbianstripperninja..."

"Bye!"

If you no longer like it, get out. It's not good for you or anyone else to hang around a hobby that no longer interests you. Bye, and have a nice life.

Maybe selling your stuff would be a little rushed, because now you're 100% sure that you don't wan't to game no more, but what if in 6 months or a year you want to go back, maybe you won't, but maybe you'll choose to come back.
It happened to me with basketball, I played for several teams during 10 years, then I turned 20 and facing the fact that I was not going to make it to Pro-basketball I walked away.
And every now and then I regreat.

Quote from: JimBobOzA year later: "Let me tell you about my 25th level drowlesbianstripperninja..."

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You could begin with my big list of links. If you're really desperate, you could even go look at my LJ, at least the parts where I talk about roleplaying stuff.

First of all, hi to everyone since I'm new to this cool forum.

I'd like to say: I found myself in your position several times. I tried to quit rpgs at least three or four times: girlfriends, university, jobs, family... many stuff detracted from the enjoyment of them.

I sold the books I had.

Well, let me say that now, at 32, I play. I rebought a line of books (D&D3.5, d20  Modern, Midnight) and I'm selling alternative RPGs.
What I mean: take a rest, keep the books you're most comfortable with, and sell the rest of the stuff.
When the itch will start again, maybe you'll restard buying and enojoying them.

Quote from: RPGPunditHave you considered trying to go back to basics instead?

If gaming isn't fun for you anymore, you may want to figure out what it is that really isn't fun?
It might not be the dichotomy between playing/GMing. It could be that you need to simplify the way you play the game.  What was the game you played back when, the game that you loved?

You may want to try simplifying the way you play, instead of making it too serious.

RPGPundit

I agree totally.
I found the joy of RPGs again using first Castles & Crusades, then D&D 3.5 and d20 Modern.
I dunno what kind of RPGs he play, but for sure he could sell everything and buy Castles & Crusades player handbook and monster book. With all the stuff there's in the web (adventures, campaigns for d&d), he can spend these 30 bucks and have material to use for ages, in case of urge of retrying.
And selling the stuff he has, he could do a great margin.

The lone fact, that he dramatically anounces his leaving is enough for me to dismiss it as attention whoring and a non-permanent decision.