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Encumbrance questions

Started by mAcular Chaotic, January 02, 2017, 12:15:20 PM

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Omega

#15
January 11, 2017, 09:42:24 AM Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 09:46:37 AM by Omega
Unfortunately not a whole lot. Aside from the mistletoe theres few other spells that call back for an item from the equipment list.

The bell needed for Alarm, any spell needing a vial of holy water, like Commune and Dispel Evil.

Im not done with my list yet but those three are so far it. The rest are arguably available as scraps.

Naburimannu

#16
January 11, 2017, 12:15:51 PM
Quote from: Omega;939893Nope. Says "up to ten berries appear" which is RPG speak for "roll a d10"

That's an interpretation I wouldn't have applied.

mAcular Chaotic

#17
January 11, 2017, 12:22:28 PM
Yeah, the other way of looking at it would be that it's the player's choice to create 1-10 berries.
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crkrueger

#18
January 11, 2017, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;939978Yeah, the other way of looking at it would be that it's the player's choice to create 1-10 berries.

You mean the retarded way?
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mAcular Chaotic

#19
January 11, 2017, 03:49:17 PM
I'm pretty sure that's how it was intended, since in every other instance the rules state what dice to roll if you need to roll it. Like it doesn't say "take up to 6 damage," it'll say, take 1d6 damage.

I suppose here though there's some leeway: http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/10/05/how-many-goodberries/
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crkrueger

#20
January 11, 2017, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;940012I'm pretty sure that's how it was intended, since in every other instance the rules state what dice to roll if you need to roll it. Like it doesn't say "take up to 6 damage," it'll say, take 1d6 damage.

I suppose here though there's some leeway: http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/10/05/how-many-goodberries/

Why would you voluntarily make less than 10 if it uses the same components either way?  The idea itself is idiotic.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Omega

#21
January 11, 2017, 04:46:53 PM Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 05:04:25 PM by Omega
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;940012I'm pretty sure that's how it was intended, since in every other instance the rules state what dice to roll if you need to roll it. Like it doesn't say "take up to 6 damage," it'll say, take 1d6 damage.

I suppose here though there's some leeway: http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/10/05/how-many-goodberries/

Because it goes against standing RPG notation and throws wide open all manner of rules lawyering about anything that doesnt specifically say XdX.

And using Crawford as your validation is a known failure as Mearls will often say the exact opposite. And too many of Crawfords answers are contradictory. Which only worsens the problem.

mAcular Chaotic

#22
January 11, 2017, 05:11:23 PM Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 05:15:52 PM by mAcular Chaotic
Quote from: CRKrueger;940016Why would you voluntarily make less than 10 if it uses the same components either way?  The idea itself is idiotic.

The explanation I was told was that maybe you want to RP being selfish, or need to hide using magic so you only use the bare minimum you can eat quickly.

But yeah I don't think it's a big deal. I just wonder why it didn't just say d10 berries instead of up to 10.

edit: Ah, the spell Bless uses the same notation. "Up to three," but that obviously means the player chooses between 0-3 rather than rolling.

http://engl393-dnd5th.wikia.com/wiki/Bless

Hmmm.
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crkrueger

#23
January 11, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;940031The explanation I was told was that maybe you want to RP being selfish, or need to hide using magic so you only use the bare minimum you can eat quickly.

But yeah I don't think it's a big deal. I just wonder why it didn't just say d10 berries instead of up to 10.

edit: Ah, the spell Bless uses the same notation. "Up to three," but that obviously means the player chooses between 0-3 rather than rolling.

http://engl393-dnd5th.wikia.com/wiki/Bless

Hmmm.

Hmm is right.  The Bless is obvious, you can't Bless more people than there are people there, and it can't be more than 3, and maybe you only want to Bless one of the three.  Do the berries stick around still, so you can save them for later (in case you run into some poor starving children)?  If so, the idea that you would make less is just weird.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Omega

#24
January 11, 2017, 07:43:42 PM Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 07:45:55 PM by Omega
Quote from: CRKrueger;940033Do the berries stick around still, so you can save them for later (in case you run into some poor starving children)?  If so, the idea that you would make less is just weird.

24 hours then lose their power. Guess youd still have 10 (poisonous) mistletoe berries at least?

Though to be fair. It could be that the spell makes one berry per person present at the time of casting. 10 max.

Omega

#25
January 11, 2017, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: Omega;94006824 hours then lose their power. Guess youd still have 10 (poisonous) mistletoe berries at least?

Though to be fair. It could be that the spell makes one berry per person present at the time of casting. 10 max.
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