Fair enough. Like I said, if the people are hardcore (racists, jerks, whatever), it is what it is. Good luck on future gaming.

Quote from: jhkim;1067395I haven't had any overt racists at my table, as far as I know. I'd be curious about any other observations you have of them.

I'm pretty sure I would just boot them from my game. I'm down with differing points of view, but some views are going too far.

OK I've not had any hardcore* racists at my game table, they are pretty thin on the ground in London I'd think, so this is speculative, but I've encountered them in other social contexts and seen how they tend to behave.

*Well there was that German female GM who took offence at the Sven Hassel WW2 pulp novel I loaned her, because it portrayed the Third Reich in a bad light... and she didn't like it that my PC had African features. But she was more the quiet type at first.

Like you, I'm more into booting people, assuming I'm the GM/in charge. Life's too short. I guess if a good friend whipped out MYFAROG I'd tell him to put it away and play D&D. It seems an unlikely scenario though. I think if a friend started praising David Duke and wouldn't shut up I'd have to cut him off.

Quote from: cenmarik;1067394(One time had a weird racist whatever who our yellow lab growled at and backed into his leg and crapped on his foot. He never acted like that with anyone else ever, so we knew something was wrong and kicked him out after some talk drama.)

Sorry for rambling. Especially bad form for first post. Sick as Hell, so whatever. Good luck with the guy.

I will now remember this topic as the one where a dog was said to be so creeped out and angry at a racist that it backed up and shat on his shoe. This anecdote will be a treasure forever. I think you may have won "Best First Post Ever!"

Quote from: Opaopajr;1067422I will now remember this topic as the one where a dog was said to be so creeped out and angry at a racist that it backed up and shat on his shoe. This anecdote will be a treasure forever. I think you may have won "Best First Post Ever!"

At the previous house we were playing D&D at, the homeowners dog was always super freaked out by the MYFAROG owner. Animals know, we should have payed heed to Ginger.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1067397Are you kidding? We're talking about kiddy diddlers and NAHT-ZEES! Kickin 'em out is too good for 'em. You gotta get your shotgun and show them preeverts some homemade justice!

Shit, I knew a guy who got shot with rock salt for repeatedly raping a farmer's goats. Yes, this is the same town were the stallion fucked the guy to death.

Quote from: SP23;1067325I was the DM prior to Friday night, and even though I knew it would be a shit show, the DM really, really wanted -

Okay, so my instinct on reading your original post was correct: you were deliberately disruptive of someone's game session.

So you're an arsehole.

This does not mean that the 19yo was not also an arsehole, if only because of his racism; but he didn't bring that up until you asked and probed and poked and pushed. You set out to sabotage the game session, while the racist had no such intention.

You're an arsehole, and would not be welcome at any game table I know. You need to reassess how you approach your social life.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1067430Okay, so my instinct on reading your original post was correct: you were deliberately disruptive of someone's game session.

So you're an arsehole.

This does not mean that the 19yo was not also an arsehole, if only because of his racism; but he didn't bring that up until you asked and probed and poked and pushed. You set out to sabotage the game session, while the racist had no such intention.

You're an arsehole, and would not be welcome at any game table I know. You need to reassess how you approach your social life.

How so? What did I do? All the racism shit went down before the game ever started.

I've managed to play at tables with Sean K. Reynolds, Jonathan Tweet, Chris Lindsey, Stephen Radney-McFarland, Chris Perkins, Ed Stark, Bill Slavicsek, Chris Tulach, and Steve Winter, so actually I must be doing something right.

But yes, I can be an asshole.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1067430Okay, so my instinct on reading your original post was correct: you were deliberately disruptive of someone's game session. This does not mean that the 19yo was not also an arsehole, if only because of his racism; but he didn't bring that up until you asked and probed and poked and pushed. You set out to sabotage the game session, while the racist had no such intention.

Where in the fuck are you getting this? You know, you're really going out of your way to make me the bad guy. How exactly is a guy pulling out a copy of MYFAROG, probing, poking, and pushing? Does your entire argument boil down to me mentioning BlacKkKlansman to find out just how much of a shitstain this guy is? I'm glad I did, as the impassioned David Duke screed that followed let me know exactly what kind of person I was dealing with. You've got a serious reading comprehension problem, how would I have ever known any of this if HE didn't pull out MYFAROG and start singing the praises of Varg. Frankly Kyle, you've got yourself worked up into a tizzy, because you can't play out the sequence of events properly, and refuse to reappraise the situation. So, cordially, just fuck off. I get it, I'll never play at your table, boo fucking hoo!

Edit: I just noticed you're second sig: "Don't let yourself get too worried about all this talk about roleplaying [...] the ultimate object of all this is for everyone to have fun, not to recreate some form of high dramatic art." - Dungeoneer. That's the reason the game was disrupted, not for anything to do with racism. Racist player and the DM do think it's some form of high dramatic art, and racist player flipped the fuck out hours into the session because the rest of the table wasn't meeting his insane standards of what RPing should be, but hey, keep making me the bad guy. You might want to change your sig though, as it was thing that disrupted the game.

And for all you people saying just give the poor racist another chance, what exactly was spending an hour talking him down from rage quitting the game, if not giving him another chance to unfuck himself and just play D&D? I and the other older player, with zero help from his buddy the DM got him back at the table and playing the game again. But let me guess, it's also somehow my fault that the DM then sabotaged his own campaign with a 3/4 TPK, then noped out of playing with us anymore the following day because he's a moral coward. Must be awesome down in OZ with all those sweet mental powers you have to know exactly how it all played out.

Our dog was scared he was gonna get in trouble with his head down and tail between his legs. He was older, and the last time we said anything was when he was a baby tearing things up and it was simply take him outside and wear him out throwing the ball in the yard. So for the peace in the house being ruined was a real pisser. (Plus the creepy guy made an off comment he was gonna kick our dog among other stuff. "Feel bad about your shoe, but you aren't kickin any dogs today. Here's some napkins, let's go.")

Took our dog outside and had a man-to-man telling him things are cool and he was right but crapping on shoes can't become a standard thing. All he knew was we were playing ball so it was all good. So it ended cool.

Quote from: SP23;1067428At the previous house we were playing D&D at, the homeowners dog was always super freaked out by the MYFAROG owner. Animals know, we should have payed heed to Ginger.

Not as good as the dog that backs up and shit on a guy's shoe in disgust. But I recognize you trying.

Quote from: SP23;1067429Shit, I knew a guy who got shot with rock salt for repeatedly raping a farmer's goats. Yes, this is the same town were the stallion fucked the guy to death.

A much better effort! And now I believe you are either trying too hard, or live in a meth tweakers sanctuary city and should consider Zillow to find a new place to reside! Please, do go on. And as you do on, reflect that all this posting (and cross-posting) effort would be better served by researching an escape plan.

Quote from: Opaopajr;1067438Not as good as the dog that backs up and shit on a guy's shoe in disgust. But I recognize you trying.



A much better effort! And now I believe you are either trying too hard, or live in a meth tweakers sanctuary city and should consider Zillow to find a new place to reside! Please, do go on. And as you do on, reflect that all this posting (and cross-posting) effort would be better served by researching an escape plan.

I'm not trying, I haven't written a single thing that isn't true in this entire thread.

Hey man, you can look this shit up. The goat incident happened in 1993 or 1994 iirc. And I'll have you know the meth capital of Washington was a good 10 miles away the next county over, Prairie Ridge, WA. However, this guy was just seriously mentally ill, no drugs that I know of. I'm not making up the stallion fucking a dude to death, they made a god damn movie about it.

Must be rough when everything is a lie.

Greetings!

I generally try and vet people pretty well before I invite them into my home to game with the group. Everyone in the groups know I don't tolerate morons at all, so they typically are extra vigilant when they talk to a friend at work, or a sibling's friend for example. Thus, most of the "new blood" that gets recruited over the years also tend to be pretty cool people. I'm all for being open and teaching new people to game, and welcoming them to join us--but everyone knows I will not tolerate rude, ill-mannered jackasses. My family and friends are not getting together with their limited social time to have to spend it coddling creepy, basement-dwelling troglodytes.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SP23;1067439I'm not trying, I haven't written a single thing that isn't true in this entire thread.

Hey man, you can look this shit up. The goat incident happened in 1993 or 1994 iirc. And I'll have you know the meth capital of Washington was a good 10 miles away the next county over, Prairie Ridge, WA. However, this guy was just seriously mentally ill, no drugs that I know of. I'm not making up the stallion fucking a dude to death, they made a god damn movie about it.

Must be rough when everything is a lie.

Hah! Ok, sure, it's a wonderful day in your neighborhood, Mr. Rogers. Perhaps you should reply less and run away from crazy more.

Quote from: Opaopajr;1067444 Hah! Ok, sure, it's a wonderful day in your neighborhood, Mr. Rogers. Perhaps you should reply less and run away from crazy more.

K, don't live there anymore, and things have changed a lot in the last 25 years. It is, and always was, one of the safest places to live in the entire state of Washington. Well, unless you're a goat, or a horse, or a chicken.

Quote from: SP23;1067431I've managed to play at tables with Sean K. Reynolds, Jonathan Tweet, Chris Lindsey, Stephen Radney-McFarland, Chris Perkins, Ed Stark, Bill Slavicsek, Chris Tulach, and Steve Winter, so actually I must be doing something right.

Do these guys know that you are throwing their names around in an attempt to prove your own adequacy?