Encountered my first blatantly racist player

jeff37923 · December 03, 2018, 02:45:48 PM

Racists, ISIS supporters, NAMBLA supporters, who the fuck are you people gaming with? Where are you all finding these shits? I get annoyed having to deal with SJWs online and occasionally in real life, but I've met and dealt with far more just plain assholes and lawncrappers at the game table then with obvious ejection fodder like you guys have. What are you guys doing that brings the freaks out to game?

jeff37923 · December 03, 2018, 02:48:32 PM

Quote from: SP23;1067331They were the best roleplayers at the table. Didn't make for a fun game though. When the DM and 1 player are playing a totally different game than the rest of the table, doesn't matter if their performances are Oscar worthy.

So we'll just add penis envy to the list of reasons why you engaged in this fiasco.

S'mon · December 03, 2018, 02:54:30 PM

Quote from: SP23;1067298you can't be angry with racism because SJW are worse

This may be a controversial opinion for therpgsite, but I think SJW gamers are actually better at the table, generally, than racist players - I think SJWs actually are generally able to keep their views to themselves while gaming, though they may go online later and moan about it. Whereas overt racists tend to be the types who seek out conflict by doing stuff like waving MYFAROG around at a game table. Also, waving Blue Rose or FATE around really doesn't have the same effect, and as yet there aren't a lot of Kill All White Men games out there.

Bruwulf · December 03, 2018, 02:57:26 PM

Quote from: jeff37923;1067336Racists, ISIS supporters, NAMBLA supporters, who the fuck are you people gaming with? Where are you all finding these shits? I get annoyed having to deal with SJWs online and occasionally in real life, but I've met and dealt with far more just plain assholes and lawncrappers at the game table then with obvious ejection fodder like you guys have. What are you guys doing that brings the freaks out to game?

The worst I usually encounter are the weird, creepy ones who seem to get a little too "in" to the nasty, bloodplay/sadism/cruelty/domination/violence elements of Vampire games.

Ran into three or four of those so far.

*shudder*

Brad · December 03, 2018, 03:03:19 PM

Quote from: SP23;1067214Do I have to put the /s for you?

Not sure wtf that means at all. Do enlighten me.

Ratman_tf · December 03, 2018, 03:06:12 PM

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1067333For sure, but I'm kinda getting tired of dealing with losers like that. Just last month, one dude showed up with a NAMBLA pamphlet and a copy of FATAL. I'm sure not up for trying to reform that sicko, though. Still, maybe it wouldn't hurt to know how the equitable people of this thread would deal with him. Maybe even someone that low can still listen to reason.

Maybe. I've been lucky in that my groups tend to be relatively mild, with the occasional bombastic player. Worst so far is the Pathfinder Society game where one of the players was a GM, and had already run the scenario... and spoiled parts of it during the adventure.

As for people with odious views... I'd probably ask them to keep it out of the gaming session, simply tell them we're not interested in that stuff, and it's a distraction for the other players. If they get indignant, kick 'em.

Omega · December 03, 2018, 03:09:24 PM

Quote from: Simlasa;1067255I know I'm the odd-man-out treehugger at our Wednesday table, but somehow everyone generally manages to keep it in their pants and the game happens. Sure, the GM can be a misogynist/racist blowhard, but he's also a great GM. If he goes off on a non-game tangent it's pretty easy to steer him back into the game.
I'm really against this idea that we need to shun people whose views aren't 'pure' enough.

So am I. But some ideas arent just not "pure enough" if they are preaching violence and hatred. And if you don't agree then you can end up a target too. As said. Not many care to risk that and it is a far cry from someone just being a bit too inappropriate at the table somehow.
I've had to deal with that as a DM and had a talk with the players and overall they toned it down. Though did still end up going too far and ruining the campaign. I GMed the campaign to a good fun closure though rather than just crashing it there or after out of ire. Just not my style.

Ratman_tf · December 03, 2018, 03:11:11 PM

Quote from: S'mon;1067339This may be a controversial opinion for therpgsite, but I think SJW gamers are actually better at the table, generally, than racist players - I think SJWs actually are generally able to keep their views to themselves while gaming, though they may go online later and moan about it. Whereas overt racists tend to be the types who seek out conflict by doing stuff like waving MYFAROG around at a game table. Also, waving Blue Rose or FATE around really doesn't have the same effect, and as yet there aren't a lot of Kill All White Men games out there.

Shot from the hip, I think most SJW views start out reasonable, and then get unreasonable gradually. Where racist views start out unreasonable. If their politics come out at all during the game.
I do agree that most racists seem to want to protelyze. Again from the hip, I think a lot of them have gone down the rabbit hole, come to some unfortunate conclusions, and want to "red pill" their aquiantances and friends.

ArrozConLeche · December 03, 2018, 03:11:57 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1067345As for people with odious views... I'd probably ask them to keep it out of the gaming session, simply tell them we're not interested in that stuff, and it's a distraction for the other players. If they get indignant, kick 'em.

Sounds good. I'll try a firm "Do what you want with your own time but do not, I repeat, DO NOT blow up or molest children at our table, dude. That shit ain't cool."

Ratman_tf · December 03, 2018, 03:14:43 PM

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1067349Sounds good. I'll try a firm "Do what you want with your own time but do not, I repeat, DO NOT blow up or molest children at our table, dude. That shit ain't cool."

To be clear, if I thought the player was actually molesting children, I would kick them. And then call the police.

SP23 · December 03, 2018, 03:17:24 PM

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1067333For sure, but I'm kinda getting tired of dealing with losers like that. Just last month, one dude showed up with a NAMBLA pamphlet and a copy of FATAL. I'm sure not up for trying to reform that sicko, though. Still, maybe it wouldn't hurt to know how the equitable people of this thread would deal with him. Maybe even someone that low can still listen to reason.

I mean, we know you're not serious because of the NAMBLA/FATAL part, but damn, just think if that had really happened. It would be a story for the ages! Plus, to find someone who actually printed out the FATAL PDF, damn!

SP23 · December 03, 2018, 03:20:07 PM

Quote from: jeff37923;1067337So we'll just add penis envy to the list of reasons why you engaged in this fiasco.

Oh Jeff, you got me. I'm so envious of them. It was a beer and pretzel 5E group that got hijacked by a super serious DM, who knew the group was a beer and pretzel type. Hence the self-sabotage. The older players knew it would be a fiasco, but we wanted to give him a chance, even though we had told him to his face the challenges he would have if he tried to run his campaign like he had in the past.

SP23 · December 03, 2018, 03:21:43 PM

Quote from: Brad;1067343Not sure wtf that means at all. Do enlighten me.

/s indicates sarcasm

S'mon · December 03, 2018, 03:22:22 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1067348Shot from the hip, I think most SJW views start out reasonable, and then get unreasonable gradually. Where racist views start out unreasonable. If their politics come out at all during the game.
I do agree that most racists seem to want to protelyze. Again from the hip, I think a lot of them have gone down the rabbit hole, come to some unfortunate conclusions, and want to "red pill" their aquiantances and friends.

Yeah, that's my feeling. Also SJWs tend to be passive aggressive and as you say, they sort of build up over time - I did have an SJW-inclined player with mental health issues gradually subvert and ruin a campaign, eventually committing (and talking about committing more) unspeakable & depraved acts in what was explicitly a child friendly game my 9 year old son was playing in. Whereas racists (& misogynists) are more aggressive-aggressive, and will immediately be on the lookout for stuff to rant about; they relish conflict. So whereas in a public forum an SJW will often play perfectly fine at least for a while, the racist/white nationalist equivalent will mess up the game right away.

ArrozConLeche · December 03, 2018, 03:22:42 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1067350To be clear, if I thought the player was actually molesting children, I would kick them. And then call the police.

Oh, right *slaps forehead* Good advice.

I don't think he's actually moved on from ideation to action...so I guess I should just suck it up and game with a dude who gets a hard on for little boys. It feels a little icky, though, so I still would like to know how to talk some sense into him.

Kinda stumped on the ISIS guy too.