Quote from: SP23;1067310I only started trolling when...

This is straight up opinion, but IMO, I don't think this works. Black Vulmea tried it before. Either you're here to seriously engage with topics, or not. Switching to trolling when you decide the time for seriousness is over doesn't get communicated, and thus the serious part get painted with the troll brush.

Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, I'm adding more to this thread.

Quote from: SP23 in the thread of the same incident on TBPI knew, weeks ago, when the DM basically hijacked the DM slot from me, that the whole thing would crash and burn quickly, I was just totally unaware of the racist aspect to the whole thing.

No, it wasn't a particularly relevant part of the story, that I knew that the DM would almost certainly crash and burn. It was a known factor.

We are already recruiting new people. It's all for the best, racism aside, I knew without a doubt that the DM's campaign would crash and burn hard, though I wasn't expecting it to happen so quickly.

SP23 Thread on TBP

OK, so the guy who brought your racist to the table also hijacked your DM slot for this game and because of this you already knew that the game would self-destruct, but you went ahead with participating anyways.

Looks like you were butthurt about not getting the chance to DM, and so deliberately got yourself involved in this game session to feel some schadenfreude. The racism part is just an added bit to allow you to short stroke your story across gaming forums in the hope of getting some adulation from the crowd.

Quote from: SP23;1067310I only started trolling when then it didn't happen crowd showed up and started their crack internet investigation. Hey, man. I've been here since Pundie started in 2008. I know exactly what kind of site it's developed into, and sure to be fair, most of my posting is on Pundit's forum, where this thread should have been moved some time ago. I'm fully aware that I'm biased against some of the posters, because I've been reading their bullshit for years.

If you've been here since 2008, why does the Join Date on your profile say May 2017?

Quote from: Willie the Duck;1067313This is straight up opinion, but IMO, I don't think this works. Black Vulmea tried it before. Either you're here to seriously engage with topics, or not. Switching to trolling when you decide the time for seriousness is over doesn't get communicated, and thus the serious part get painted with the troll brush.

Fair enough, and you're right. I'll bow out now. I shouldn't have even posted this here, as how it played out was preordained.

Quote from: jeff37923;1067318If you've been here since 2008, why does the Join Date on your profile say May 2017?

Because Jeff, one could read Pundie's own forum without being registered until May 2017. Don't you remember that Zwiehander asshole, I'm pretty sure that's the reason why.

Quote from: jeff37923;1067316Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, I'm adding more to this thread.



SP23 Thread on TBP

OK, so the guy who brought your racist to the table also hijacked your DM slot for this game and because of this you already knew that the game would self-destruct, but you went ahead with participating anyways.

Looks like you were butthurt about not getting the chance to DM, and so deliberately got yourself involved in this game session to feel some schadenfreude. The racism part is just an added bit to allow you to short stroke your story across gaming forums in the hope of getting some adulation from the crowd.

That would fit in with the fact that the DM and this player were better at gaming than SP23.

Quote from: SP23;1067070While both of them were actually fantastic roleplayers, the best at the table by far, they decided that self-sabotage was the order of the day.

It does make me think that it wasn't self-sabotage at all, but rather a deliberate effort by SP23 to be disruptive.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1067323It does make me think that it wasn't self-sabotage at all, but rather a deliberate effort by SP23 to be disruptive.

Yeah, that would also match SP23's pattern of behavior in this thread going from serious to trolling and disruptive when his story was questioned.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1067323That would fit in with the fact that the DM and this player were better at gaming than SP23.

It does make me think that it wasn't self-sabotage at all, but rather a deliberate effort by SP23 to be disruptive.

Ok, I'll be a hypocrite too. I was the DM prior to Friday night, and even though I knew it would be a shit show, the DM really, really wanted us to take a break from what we were doing and play in his campaign world. I wanted to give him a chance, just because all the warning signs were there, no session zero, minimal communications with the players, a pet player who had been given a radically different idea of what the game was supposed to be, etc..... Doesn't mean he didn't deserve a chance. Plus I never get to play, so I was looking forward to getting the chance.

As far who is a better player, well roleplaying super serious isn't everything. Having fun should be the number one goal. So, fine. You can decide that the 19 year old racist is the better player. I'll go with the person who is a published game developer, and worked at the biggest game company in the world for over a decade. (Before you ask, no you wont' get proof, because that would require me to identify myself, and that's not happening on this site). But hey, you guys can use you're super internet detective skills to ferret it out.

Quote from: SP23;1067320Fair enough, and you're right. I'll bow out now. I shouldn't have even posted this here, as how it played out was preordained.

With you getting butthurt over how a few people didn't clap for you?

Quote from: SP23;1067325As far who is a better player, well roleplaying super serious isn't everything. Having fun should be the number one goal. So, fine. You can decide that the 19 year old racist is the better player.

Decide? I got the idea that both of them were fantastic roleplayers, the best at the table by far, from...you. Be honest with yourself.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1067326With you getting butthurt over how a few people didn't clap for you?

Yeah, cause that was happen at therpgsite? Please, I know what the crowd is like here.

Quote from: SP23;1067325Ok, I'll be a hypocrite too. I was the DM prior to Friday night, and even though I knew it would be a shit show, the DM really, really wanted us to take a break from what we were doing and play in his campaign world. I wanted to give him a chance, just because all the warning signs were there, no session zero, minimal communications with the players, a pet player who had been given a radically different idea of what the game was supposed to be, etc..... Doesn't mean he didn't deserve a chance. Plus I never get to play, so I was looking forward to getting the chance.

As far who is a better player, well roleplaying super serious isn't everything. Having fun should be the number one goal. So, fine. You can decide that the 19 year old racist is the better player. I'll go with the person who is a published game developer, and worked at the biggest game company in the world for over a decade. (Before you ask, no you wont' get proof, because that would require me to identify myself, and that's not happening on this site). But hey, you guys can use you're super internet detective skills to ferret it out.

Time to switch from boots to hip waders....

Quote from: HappyDaze;1067327Decide? I got the idea that both of them were fantastic roleplayers, the best at the table by far, from...you. Be honest with yourself.

They were the best roleplayers at the table. Didn't make for a fun game though. When the DM and 1 player are playing a totally different game than the rest of the table, doesn't matter if their performances are Oscar worthy.

Quote from: SP23;1067328Yeah, cause that was happen at therpgsite? Please, I know what the crowd is like here.

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Quote from: SP23;1067312Damn! I'll take my white nationalist David Duke defender any day over an ISIS weirdo. Shit......

For sure, but I'm kinda getting tired of dealing with losers like that. Just last month, one dude showed up with a NAMBLA pamphlet and a copy of FATAL. I'm sure not up for trying to reform that sicko, though. Still, maybe it wouldn't hurt to know how the equitable people of this thread would deal with him. Maybe even someone that low can still listen to reason.