Quote from: ShieldWife;1067226If we ignore the OP and generalize the scenario, then we just have the issue of gaming with someone who we have strong ideological disagreements with. That is a very individual sort of problem that has as much to do with the personalities of the people involved as it does with their beliefs. I would say that it's best to try to get along with people who disagree and either put aside your beliefs and enjoy each other's company in the imaginary role playing world, or even try to learn more about each other and realize that people who disagree are humans as well.

I just don't think the OP is arguing in good faith imo. Note I'm not saying on the racism that happened just how he has behaved to those who called him out on his behavior against those not agreeing with him completely. Not to mention when we get " Your not agreeing with me 1000% on the topic your all racist. Wait I don't have the stones to stand by that statement. Only some of you are racist because your not all bad". Tends to not want to make me listen to the OP. It seems both the racist player and the OP are quadrupling down on their bad behavior. As Sun Tzu once said do not fight a losing battle. If the OP is refusing to listen to me considers me racist why should I remotely give the poster the benefit of doubt.

Quote from: SP23;1067227I'm a troll because people don't believe that this happened?

I do believe that it happened. I called you a Troll and a deserved one for lashing out at those who disagree with you including myself as racist. Sorry maybe in the imaginary world you created and live in within in your head it's okay to that. In reality where real people live it's called bad behavior and depending on your age a lack of immaturity.

Quote from: SP23;1067227Or am I a troll, because I didn't try to reform this poor misguided racist?

I'm glad you did not waste your time. As too many people insist on catering to bad behavior by trying to feel for the other person. Maybe it's the cynic in me and being 45 years old that is a loser game. the racist player seems to not want to change and probably going to double down. That being said because you did not get an echo chamber "atta boy " slap on the back reaction from us we are all racist on the site. While quadrupling down on your bad behavior. One can't have it both ways on a forum. Ask for feedback then get angry and offended it's not going their way. Then again I'm sure to be labelled a racist for calling you out on your bad behavior. Kudos to you for not using Nazi.

Quote from: SP23;1067226Am I a troll because, as I knew he would, Jeff decided he was the greatest internet sleuth, and determined this is all too outrageous to be true?

Oh come on you know better. People can and do lie on the Internet. Just because you said something does not suddenly mean your a special snowflake whose statements are fact and above reproach or question. I believe you because for too many years I played rpgs with stereotypes in the hobby. So someone being racist does not seem to much of a stretch of the imagination. You did the right thing though I would have waited until after the game session ended. Or taken the player aside before the game started and ask him to leave. I certainly would not have come on a forum expecting the equivalent of an echo chamber reaction then getting angry about not getting it.  

Quote from: SP23;1067226Do I get some amusement that some of the usual suspects have tripped over themselves to run interference for racism? Sure, I mean, this place is a dumpster fire of whataboutism. I expected nothing less.

Show to me where anyone ran interference for Racism. Posters not agreeing with you completely is not doing that. It's called having a difference of opinion. If you just want a echo chamber post on a site where you will get that. Or post on a site like rpg.net where you will get the desired echo chamber. If your going to make a cheap shot at our expense. At least don't rip off Bob Something thread title.

Quote from: sureshot;1067259Or post on a site like rpg.net where you will get the desired echo chamber.

He did that too.

Quote from: S'mon;1067263He did that too.

It's kind of fascinating how differently the discussion goes depending on where something is posted. I mean, this topic is already dead and buried everywhere else, except for the one forum that people are butthurt that a racist didn't get enough love shown to him. Hmmm couldn't possibly be echo chambers......

Quote from: SP23;1067227Do I get some amusement that some of the usual suspects have tripped over themselves to run interference for racism? Sure, I mean, this place is a dumpster fire of whataboutism. I expected nothing less.

So, just to be clear:

You posted a thread on a forum you don't like, and take pleasure in the negative responses you admit you expected to get.

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Forgive an old man, child, but how is that not almost a textbook definition of "trolling"? Is this one of those newfangled "It's not when it's done to because " things that all the youth today are into?

Quote from: SP23;1067265It's kind of fascinating how differently the discussion goes depending on where something is posted. I mean, this topic is already dead and buried everywhere else, except for the one forum that people are butthurt that a racist didn't get enough love shown to him. Hmmm couldn't possibly be echo chambers......

I'm really starting to think that you don't understand what others have actually said here. Instead you have your own narrative of how the thread has gone that just about everyone else posting here disagrees with on various points. You then double-down that everyone else must be wrong...

Also, your use of "echo chamber" seems woefully misused since the only unified opinion being voiced is that you're handling the responses to your thread like an asshole. On many other details, there is no single consensus opinion being echoed. So if you keep hearing "you're being an asshole" echoing around while everything else being said differs, maybe you should listen.

Quote from: SP23;1067265Hmmm couldn't possibly be echo chambers......

There seems to be a wide variety of opinion here, much more than on the other sites. I didn't see any agreement with the racist guy's actual opinions here though. Personally I would be inclined to take your approach & walk when he started on the pro-David Duke support, but that doesn't mean you've not been a dick to people here.

Quote from: S'mon;1067263He did that too.

Colour me suprised. I guess when one wants an echo  hambef by hook or by crook they will go and find one. Even if it means throwing away any self-respect they had. Looks like he got the echo chamber he wanted at that site.

Quote from: Bruwulf;1067266So, just to be clear:

You posted a thread on a forum you don't like, and take pleasure in the negative responses you admit you expected to get.

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Forgive an old man, child, but how is that not almost a textbook definition of "trolling"? Is this one of those newfangled "It's not when it's done to because " things that all the youth today are into?

No not trolling at all  even when it's the definition of trolling. I suppose you and I are racist for pointing that out.

I was in support of how he treated that player. Sometimes a person can change and sometimes they don't. I no longer have the time let alone the willingness to deal with racist players at my table. The op is still being a jerk and troll because he did not get his echo chamber style response.

Quote from: SP23;1067265It's kind of fascinating how differently the discussion goes depending on where something is posted. I mean, this topic is already dead and buried everywhere else, except for the one forum that people are butthurt that a racist didn't get enough love shown to him. Hmmm couldn't possibly be echo chambers......

Maybe the reason is because you keep coming back and posting stupid shit. Just a thought.

Quote from: S'mon;1067272There seems to be a wide variety of opinion here, much more than on the other sites. I didn't see any agreement with the racist guy's actual opinions here though.

Nope. A few people have posted the opinions that tolerating a person in spite of their views is good, and that sometimes a little consideration can have a positive effect on a person whose views you find offensive.
And now we're all racist sympathizers, because SP23 didn't get exactly what he wanted out of this thread.

#OrcLivesMatter
#GrishnakhDidNothingWrong
#OpenGondorianBorders

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1067275Maybe the reason is because you keep coming back and posting stupid shit. Just a thought.

I mean people keep feeding the troll.......

Quote from: SP23;1067283I mean people keep feeding the troll.......

We like how you dance. I'm hoping you and BoxCrayonTales keep going. I'm going to make some slashfic about you two.

Quote from: SP23;1067283I mean people keep feeding the troll.......

Trolling on the internet is like shooting fish in a barrel. You will always get a hit.

Quote from: tenbones;1067285We like how you dance. I'm hoping you and BoxCrayonTales keep going. I'm going to make some slashfic about you two.

I have no problem with sureshot, S'mon, you, or any reasonable poster. If I've made generalizations about this site that you felt included you, I apologize.

On the other hand there have been plenty of posters who have been running soft interference for  the racist. Most of these people were the usual suspects from the Pundit's forum, that I expected. ShieldWife, who I was unaware of prior to this thread has been one of the most vocal, making sure to minimize my experience because it doesn't rise to the vile evil that is the Left. It's also very telling, that when my Reddit thread had died down to nothing, there was fresh infusion of fellow travelers who have showed up since I posted the link to it here to support the poor little racist. Couldn't possibly be the underbelly of therpgsite doing it's mini-brigade?