Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:11:53 AM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:28:17 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 16, 2023, 05:24:11 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:23:37 PM
I think he'd like to get bent.

If it's Umbran, chances are that's a Bingo.

I think 'Bingo' is his safeword.

His safeword is:

Mod Note:
Statements that desire for a diverse corporate makeup is somehow racist are a problem. Please don't suggest that.

To answer your question (in a way that I know does not brook further discussion) is that, like it or not, modern concepts of racism are dependent on socio-economic power disparity. Racism generally requires, "punching down," so to speak. Discrimination, racism, and bigotry then are not equivalent.

That, from a place of privilege, a move towards equity feels like someone is punching down at you doesn't make it so.

Sure by the time he's said it, he's already been turned inside-out, but he's not complaining.

Which is a load of manure... Oprah can punch down at working class whites all day long and not be called racist by the lefty mods because it's not about socio-economics at all, it's about refusing to embrace their insane groupthink.

Kyle Brink can call for removing white men from gaming knowing he's safe because he expresses the proper groupthink opinions. A black woman who opposes the groupthink gets labeled "not authentically black" and "has internalized mysogeny" and is shown the door by the same people.

So, technically they're NOT racists (because race only matters if one also has the right beliefs)... they're zealots.

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:11:53 AM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:28:17 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 16, 2023, 05:24:11 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:23:37 PM
I think he'd like to get bent.

If it's Umbran, chances are that's a Bingo.

I think 'Bingo' is his safeword.

His safeword is:

Mod Note:
Statements that desire for a diverse corporate makeup is somehow racist are a problem. Please don't suggest that.

To answer your question (in a way that I know does not brook further discussion) is that, like it or not, modern concepts of racism are dependent on socio-economic power disparity. Racism generally requires, "punching down," so to speak. Discrimination, racism, and bigotry then are not equivalent.

That, from a place of privilege, a move towards equity feels like someone is punching down at you doesn't make it so.

Sure by the time he's said it, he's already been turned inside-out, but he's not complaining.

LOLOLOL

I stopped posting there a loooong time ago. The fact that twats like this are mods there, is the natural extension of why I left. Any mods there that had half a brain and were even partially innocent in their attempts at trying to do appease these assholes that proliferate there have been run off long ago.

The same thing will happen at the Pub when their current batch of mods get sick and tired of babysitting the Kool-Aid drinkers there, or will become like them. Modding is a thankless gig (can confirm) and at some point you have to realize is this real priority of your time and energy? For some - it absolutely is if the forum has other benefits.

For mods that believe the gig is their tiny Shitheap Empire where they can finally feel they have power... well those are the ones you should be wary of. ENWorld will *never* catch TBP in this regard, but of course the problem people don't care, as they're content flagellating their congregations just fine.

Quote from: halfling rogue on February 17, 2023, 08:54:27 AM
How insane is it in a thread about Harry Potter saying it's okay to like JKR gets you the boot for terrorism?

Stanning for Joanne is haram, Comrade

Quote from: halfling rogue on February 09, 2023, 02:39:27 PM
About a day or two after they disallowed me from posting on that particular thread, and without any other warning they banned me for a week from the entire site:

You have been banned for the following reason: Emoji abuse for challenging moderation &anti-inclusion. Your ban will be lifted on Feb 15, 2023 at 12:00 AM.

...emoji abuse.

Are there any adults left in this industry at all?

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on February 17, 2023, 05:44:51 PM

Quote from: halfling rogue on February 09, 2023, 02:39:27 PM
About a day or two after they disallowed me from posting on that particular thread, and without any other warning they banned me for a week from the entire site:

You have been banned for the following reason: Emoji abuse for challenging moderation &anti-inclusion. Your ban will be lifted on Feb 15, 2023 at 12:00 AM.

...emoji abuse.

Are there any adults left in this industry at all?

Greetings!

*Laughing* Yeah, Anon Adderlan, I agree. It's so terrible, but also stupid funny. I don't tolerate these kinds of jackasses well at all, so I stopped going there many years ago. The totalitarianism, the censorship, the arrogance, hypocrisy, and mind-boggling stupidity of the people involved.

No thank you.

I have better things to do with my time, and better places to hang out online where I am not treated like I am a child.

Halfling Rogue leads to leave EN-World entirely, and come here.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: tenbones on February 17, 2023, 10:16:17 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:11:53 AM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:28:17 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 16, 2023, 05:24:11 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:23:37 PM
I think he'd like to get bent.

If it's Umbran, chances are that's a Bingo.

I think 'Bingo' is his safeword.

His safeword is:

Mod Note:
Statements that desire for a diverse corporate makeup is somehow racist are a problem. Please don't suggest that.

To answer your question (in a way that I know does not brook further discussion) is that, like it or not, modern concepts of racism are dependent on socio-economic power disparity. Racism generally requires, "punching down," so to speak. Discrimination, racism, and bigotry then are not equivalent.

That, from a place of privilege, a move towards equity feels like someone is punching down at you doesn't make it so.

Sure by the time he's said it, he's already been turned inside-out, but he's not complaining.

LOLOLOL

I stopped posting there a loooong time ago. The fact that twats like this are mods there, is the natural extension of why I left. Any mods there that had half a brain and were even partially innocent in their attempts at trying to do appease these assholes that proliferate there have been run off long ago.

The same thing will happen at the Pub when their current batch of mods get sick and tired of babysitting the Kool-Aid drinkers there, or will become like them. Modding is a thankless gig (can confirm) and at some point you have to realize is this real priority of your time and energy? For some - it absolutely is if the forum has other benefits.

For mods that believe the gig is their tiny Shitheap Empire where they can finally feel they have power... well those are the ones you should be wary of. ENWorld will *never* catch TBP in this regard, but of course the problem people don't care, as they're content flagellating their congregations just fine.

Greetings!

*BOOM!* Damn right, Tenbones! So true. I can't stand these kinds of morons. I have no patience for them whatsoever.

I remember you posting at EN-Word. EN-World used to be a really neat place, back in oh, 2008 I think, and before. I was there mostly from 2000 to 2006 or maybe a bit up to 2008.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Shortly before finding this place i tried enworld, made maybe 5 posts and deleted my account. Someone had released an africa based game and was plugging it, i had said i would be hesitant even if i liked it because i wouldn't want beset by people claiming appropriation or whatever because i know jack and shit about african cultures other than i dont want any you can keep it. Mistake.

I was instantly beset by not just the one fucker I was talking to but a small cheerleader mob with effeminate whiney tones and arguments based on on group perception and social shaming...which, as you know, just makes my hillbilly pecker hard, I mean, we didnt fight the yankees over slaves, we didnt have any, we did it because yankees have shit attitude and came close enough to kill w/o having to saddle your horse...in just a few back and forths when it became clear  this guy cannot be shamed, then you get warnings for that morris dweeb about what kind bad person you are. I said hell naw deleted that shit and am never going back. enjoy it fuckers, hope your cunt grows over with hep warts and you have to piss out your freakin armpit. sidewalk sissy bitches.

Quote from: SHARK on February 17, 2023, 06:26:56 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 17, 2023, 10:16:17 AM

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:11:53 AM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:28:17 PM

Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 16, 2023, 05:24:11 PM

Quote from: tenbones on February 16, 2023, 05:23:37 PM
I think he'd like to get bent.

If it's Umbran, chances are that's a Bingo.

I think 'Bingo' is his safeword.

His safeword is:

Mod Note:
Statements that desire for a diverse corporate makeup is somehow racist are a problem. Please don't suggest that.

To answer your question (in a way that I know does not brook further discussion) is that, like it or not, modern concepts of racism are dependent on socio-economic power disparity. Racism generally requires, "punching down," so to speak. Discrimination, racism, and bigotry then are not equivalent.

That, from a place of privilege, a move towards equity feels like someone is punching down at you doesn't make it so.

Sure by the time he's said it, he's already been turned inside-out, but he's not complaining.

LOLOLOL

I stopped posting there a loooong time ago. The fact that twats like this are mods there, is the natural extension of why I left. Any mods there that had half a brain and were even partially innocent in their attempts at trying to do appease these assholes that proliferate there have been run off long ago.

The same thing will happen at the Pub when their current batch of mods get sick and tired of babysitting the Kool-Aid drinkers there, or will become like them. Modding is a thankless gig (can confirm) and at some point you have to realize is this real priority of your time and energy? For some - it absolutely is if the forum has other benefits.

For mods that believe the gig is their tiny Shitheap Empire where they can finally feel they have power... well those are the ones you should be wary of. ENWorld will *never* catch TBP in this regard, but of course the problem people don't care, as they're content flagellating their congregations just fine.

Greetings!

*BOOM!* Damn right, Tenbones! So true. I can't stand these kinds of morons. I have no patience for them whatsoever.

I remember you posting at EN-Word. EN-World used to be a really neat place, back in oh, 2008 I think, and before. I was there mostly from 2000 to 2006 or maybe a bit up to 2008.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I still remember those days - new content was being produced by D&D fans and posted there almost every day - classes, feats, utilities, prior edition adventure conversions, etc.

Discussions were often interesting, sometimes thought-provoking, usually inspiring me to go off and create a new adventure or expand upon existing campaign stuff.   Umbran was always a cunt of a moderator, but it wasn't until Morrus bought the thing that it started to turn to shit.  The thread about how raycisum because green orcs = black and brown people is when I finally punched out.

Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2023, 01:30:32 PMOne reason Woke went into hyperdrive from 2012 was as a reaction to Occupy Wall Street, which was seen as genuinely anti-capitalist. You'll note that the Wokest news media tend to be the most CIA-friendly.

Exactly. I've started telling people, esp young people that all this Woke, Gender & Race stuff started getting really big because it's a distraction from actual issues like wealth inequality... Which yes, did start getting some big traction 2009-12 and POOF - DISTRACTION! Let's talk about something other than how the elites screw everyone over.

And welcome @Halfling Rogue. Sorry to hear EN world went to shit, heard about it for a few years now.

Quote from: Iron_Rain on February 19, 2023, 12:14:58 PM

Quote from: S'mon on February 09, 2023, 01:30:32 PMOne reason Woke went into hyperdrive from 2012 was as a reaction to Occupy Wall Street, which was seen as genuinely anti-capitalist. You'll note that the Wokest news media tend to be the most CIA-friendly.

Exactly. I've started telling people, esp young people that all this Woke, Gender & Race stuff started getting really big because it's a distraction from actual issues like wealth inequality... Which yes, did start getting some big traction 2009-12 and POOF - DISTRACTION! Let's talk about something other than how the elites screw everyone over.

And welcome @Halfling Rogue. Sorry to hear EN world went to shit, heard about it for a few years now.

Case in point where the distraction failed is Hasbro's attempt at shutting down the small third parties and hook their consumers up as unending pay pigs for their Gatcha game. Screw the little guy publishers and the make the consumer pay more for less.

They TRIED selling the woke creed of "this is to protect against hate" but the money grab was just too blatant for the cover to work.

On the other hand, as soon as that naked money grab was resolved (for now) it's right back to dividing people over "the sooner white men leave the hobby the better" and the woke seals return to clapping for them.

Occupy at first didn't seem so much anti-capitalist or against wealth inequality as much as just average joes getting fed up at cronyism. It's the (what we now call) wokies that tried to turn it into their socialist, identity politics shitshow that drove off the average joes.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 19, 2023, 04:50:37 PM
Occupy at first didn't seem so much anti-capitalist or against wealth inequality as much as just average joes getting fed up at cronyism. It's the (what we now call) wokies that tried to turn it into their socialist, identity politics shitshow that drove off the average joes.

True.
I knew a couple guys that went to OccupyWS, real heavy AnCap fukkers, and they came back saying how almost nobody there knew what tf they were talking about. It was just a lot people angry because some bankers make money (not even that they MAKE money, but that they don't share it). The low-information, irrational death-spiral of stupidity has only gotten worse over the years. It's how we got to the point where people are getting banned for discussing topics in a nuanced way. "Obey the groupthink or be Othered." </insert Donald Sutherland pointing and screeching>

Also, belated welcome to Halfling Rogue. I couldn't bring myself to visit the thread, but the OP was more than enough to get the gist.

Someone on ENWorld started a change.org petition for Hasbro

Quote from: DocJones on February 22, 2023, 04:40:03 PM
Someone on ENWorld started a change.org petition for Hasbro

I did +1 and Like with heart emoji.  I'm doing my part!!11!

Quote from: THE_Leopold on February 22, 2023, 04:50:41 PM

Quote from: DocJones on February 22, 2023, 04:40:03 PM
Someone on ENWorld started a change.org petition for Hasbro

I did +1 and Like with heart emoji.  I'm doing my part!!11!

I did my part by buying a copy. 
I thought the prevailing woke opinion was that orcs were based on black people.
It looks to me like TSR's Mystara Gazetteer #10 totally upends that.
Orcs are quite diverse in Mystara as there are red, yellow, copper, chalk tan, white/grey orcs, goblins, hobgoblins.
The Thar Orcs are like Roman legions but they wear black uniforms and think they are the master race.
I did notsee that coming from TSR.
The hobgoblin Queen Yazar is depicted on the the petition as something shameful.
And yet I believe it to be evocative of the stunning and brave Lizzo.
The designers were way ahead of their time.