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Elon Musk VS WotC on their Trashing of Gary Gygax

Started by jeff37923, November 22, 2024, 06:12:36 PM

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Ruprecht

#45
November 28, 2024, 10:23:17 AM
Quote from: Hzilong on November 27, 2024, 10:51:30 PMI'd say its kind of a "hate the game not the player" situation. Business should try to get what they can out of the government because the government will damn sure try to fleece you too.
I agree, I'm just saying people shouldn't consider him a hero when they don't know all his politics.

His companies also have some strange and somewhat despicable practices. TESLA seems to not have a lessons learned when they build a factory and gladly  make the same mistakes again (number of restrooms and distance of restrooms from workers caused urine smelling dark corners in their factories in Oakland, they repeated this in their Austin facilities). Of course that's their problem, I just think it's odd. I'd heard a similar story about the Samsung construction in Austin where they didn't have any kind of documentation of their buildings in Korea to avoid mistakes. Seems really strange to me.
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Emerikol

#46
December 03, 2024, 09:47:41 AM
Quote from: S'mon on November 26, 2024, 04:32:36 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on November 25, 2024, 10:55:13 PMAny wrongthink is dogpiled instantly, followed by mod action (assuming the mods can see through their own drool clearly enough to read). 

It's really just one mod. Umbran is 99% of what's wrong with EN World and has pretty much single handedly set the tone of the site as it is now.

Amen. I've been banned for days for the most innocuous comments. They've made it impossible to even have a reasonable discussion.
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Emerikol

#47
December 03, 2024, 09:49:37 AM
Folks I don't think people are all for Musk so much as they are anti-WOTC. People are tired of WOTC trashing the old school game and gamers.
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Venka

#48
December 03, 2024, 11:05:32 AM
I mean there's plenty of Musk fanboys.  I can certainly see how anyone would like him, given that he pisses off the right people and actually does things in a world where most cannot.  He's not exactly my ball of yarn, but I can see why he would be popular among plenty of cats.

blackstone

#49
December 03, 2024, 11:25:27 AM
Dungeon Craft had a pretty good take on it:

1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

Armchair Gamer

#50
December 03, 2024, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: S'mon on November 26, 2024, 04:32:36 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on November 25, 2024, 10:55:13 PMAny wrongthink is dogpiled instantly, followed by mod action (assuming the mods can see through their own drool clearly enough to read). 

It's really just one mod. Umbran is 99% of what's wrong with EN World and has pretty much single handedly set the tone of the site as it is now.

  The mods enforce the cult, but they don't create it--it comes from both above (WotC) and below (much of their audience). I half-expect that all three will unify to require the following to open each session of Official D&D (since the Unholy Brand Name and the Network Collective is what really matters):
  • Ceremonial cursing of the name of Gygax (and perhaps Musk, depending on whether the current Indefinite Two-Minutes Hate persists)
  • Pledge of Allegiance to the Progressive Pride Flag
  • Trampling of the crucifix
  • Offering to Asmodeus

;)

David Johansen

#51
December 03, 2024, 02:32:03 PM
Mr. Asmodeus denies any involvement with this woke nonsense but will happily accept offerings as long as no contractual obligations are claimed or implied by the donating party.
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Cathode Ray

#52
December 03, 2024, 03:09:43 PM
I'm not a Musk fanboy, and I know there are political things of his I don't like.  But, regardless of politics, even when he was a democrat, I always considered Elon Musk to be an interesting person who did some pretty innovative things.  I always admired and respected these qualities about him and liked reading about his life. 

...Because a person is more than his political views.  I'm sure many here agree with this.
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Exploderwizard

#53
December 03, 2024, 04:00:17 PM
I am not a fan of Musk nor a hater. He is kind of an odd duck that does all kinds of things for his own reasons. If he were to acquire D&D and put a stop to all the corporate hate of Gygax, Arneson and other pioneers who helped make this hobby that would be another step that would move him more to the fan column.
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Khersheyjr

#54
December 03, 2024, 04:37:30 PM
Eh?  Just keep playing with the books I already have.

Emerikol

#55
December 04, 2024, 09:46:31 AM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on December 03, 2024, 03:09:43 PMI'm not a Musk fanboy, and I know there are political things of his I don't like.  But, regardless of politics, even when he was a democrat, I always considered Elon Musk to be an interesting person who did some pretty innovative things.  I always admired and respected these qualities about him and liked reading about his life. 

...Because a person is more than his political views.  I'm sure many here agree with this.

I agree and I have almost the same take on Musk.  I don't always think he is doing the right thing but I think he thinks he is and he cares about a lot of things that are good.  He is a driver of innovation too.
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