SPECIAL NOTICE
Malicious code was found on the site, which has been removed, but would have been able to access files and the database, revealing email addresses, posts, and encoded passwords (which would need to be decoded). However, there is no direct evidence that any such activity occurred. REGARDLESS, BE SURE TO CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS. And as is good practice, remember to never use the same password on more than one site. While performing housekeeping, we also decided to upgrade the forums.
This is a site for discussing roleplaying games. Have fun doing so, but there is one major rule: do not discuss political issues that aren't directly and uniquely related to the subject of the thread and about gaming. While this site is dedicated to free speech, the following will not be tolerated: devolving a thread into unrelated political discussion, sockpuppeting (using multiple and/or bogus accounts), disrupting topics without contributing to them, and posting images that could get someone fired in the workplace (an external link is OK, but clearly mark it as Not Safe For Work, or NSFW). If you receive a warning, please take it seriously and either move on to another topic or steer the discussion back to its original RPG-related theme.

Elon Musk VS WotC on their Trashing of Gary Gygax

Started by jeff37923, November 22, 2024, 06:12:36 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

BadApple

I have mixed feelings about Musk.  I like what he's done with X and Space X but Tesla is a mess and PayPal is of the devil.

I would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

GhostNinja

Screw WOTC.  Glad to hear that shareholders are suing them.
Ghostninja

Omega

Quote from: Brad on November 23, 2024, 02:46:04 PMGygax made D&D to have fun, but because he's was a white, Christian dude, he might as well have been Hitler incarnate and D&D is nothing more than an exercise in white supremacy that has to be changed lest Nazism reign.

To hear some of the morons on Reddit talk. Yeah thats how far into the gutter Gygax's name has been dragged.

S'mon

Quote from: BadApple on November 23, 2024, 08:29:55 PMI have mixed feelings about Musk.  I like what he's done with X and Space X but Tesla is a mess and PayPal is of the devil.

I would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.

I don't think Musk owns Paypal?

I like the idea of SHARK running WoTC and producing Dungeons & Dragons: Blood & Boobs Edition
Shadowdark Wilderlands (Fridays 6pm UK/1pm EST)  https://smons.blogspot.com/2024/08/shadowdark.html

BadApple

Quote from: S'mon on November 24, 2024, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: BadApple on November 23, 2024, 08:29:55 PMI have mixed feelings about Musk.  I like what he's done with X and Space X but Tesla is a mess and PayPal is of the devil.

I would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.

I don't think Musk owns Paypal?

I like the idea of SHARK running WoTC and producing Dungeons & Dragons: Blood & Boobs Edition

Musk was one of the founders of PayPal.  That's how he became rich and was able to start Tesla and Space X.  I think he's divested now but I still hate PayPal and still mad at him over it.
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

S'mon

Quote from: BadApple on November 24, 2024, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: S'mon on November 24, 2024, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: BadApple on November 23, 2024, 08:29:55 PMI have mixed feelings about Musk.  I like what he's done with X and Space X but Tesla is a mess and PayPal is of the devil.

I would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.

I don't think Musk owns Paypal?

I like the idea of SHARK running WoTC and producing Dungeons & Dragons: Blood & Boobs Edition

Musk was one of the founders of PayPal.  That's how he became rich and was able to start Tesla and Space X.  I think he's divested now but I still hate PayPal and still mad at him over it.

Yeah I thought he divested before it became Evil.
Shadowdark Wilderlands (Fridays 6pm UK/1pm EST)  https://smons.blogspot.com/2024/08/shadowdark.html

Omega

Quote from: BadApple on November 23, 2024, 08:29:55 PMI would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.

This would be doomed to failure. There are too many differing views on what D&D even should be. And worse there are people trying to enforce a very narrow and false style of play. Sure enough they'd gain control one way or another and we'd be right back to the problem of ousting a new brand of idiots.

BadApple

Quote from: S'mon on November 24, 2024, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: BadApple on November 24, 2024, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: S'mon on November 24, 2024, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: BadApple on November 23, 2024, 08:29:55 PMI have mixed feelings about Musk.  I like what he's done with X and Space X but Tesla is a mess and PayPal is of the devil.

I would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.

I don't think Musk owns Paypal?

I like the idea of SHARK running WoTC and producing Dungeons & Dragons: Blood & Boobs Edition

Musk was one of the founders of PayPal.  That's how he became rich and was able to start Tesla and Space X.  I think he's divested now but I still hate PayPal and still mad at him over it.

Yeah I thought he divested before it became Evil.

Meh, It got worse over time but even when it started there were signs of things to come.  PayPal always reserved the right to hold money if they wanted too and even at the beginning there are stories of people basically using PayPal and getting stiffed.
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

Ruprecht

#23
deleted
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

Ruprecht

Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

SHARK

#25
Quote from: S'mon on November 24, 2024, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: BadApple on November 23, 2024, 08:29:55 PMI have mixed feelings about Musk.  I like what he's done with X and Space X but Tesla is a mess and PayPal is of the devil.

I would think the best way for us to get what we would like out of D&D is if we gamers and fans band together and crowd source buying it and form a board to run in in accordance with good game design and ethical property management.

I don't think Musk owns Paypal?

I like the idea of SHARK running WoTC and producing Dungeons & Dragons: Blood & Boobs Edition

Greetings!

*Laughing* Yeah, brother! THAT would be something else, heh? As an executive running WOTC, I would be extremely ruthless in getting rid of all of the Woke morons. Everyone left, and any new hired staff would have to align carefully with my own Genghis Khan philosophy. Some divergent thought is acceptable--of course, but ALL must be in keeping with the Genghis Khan philosophy of "Blood and Boobies".

Savage, rough men, and smoke show women, everywhere. That all is simply absolutely essential. I, as you know, enjoy many different aspects of gaming, history, fantasy, and all that, though it is my firm and absolute belief in the core audience and attraction point for D&D. Fierce, rough men, smoke show hot women, war, hatred, blood, lots of heroism. Gamers everywhere respond well to these themes, whether men or women. Interestingly, these base motives of blood, conquest, sensuality, and heroism are appreciated also by everyone virtually regardless of age--silver haired seniors, as well as adolescents, and everyone in between--all embrace such messaging with genuine enthusiasm.

As far as I am concerned, anyone that DOESN'T embrace such virtues, should go and play My Little Pony, and leave D&D to the rest of us.

Yes, I know my views would likely exclude and *marginalize* some pearl-clutching crybabies, but I don't care. The game's success--and profitability--does not hinge on such people, but is built firmly upon meeting such classic, "Old School" expectations.

These things are what the people need and want--and I would go forth and see to it that is exactly what is provided. *Laughing*

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Crusader X


Bob World Builder's take on WotC trashing Gary Gygax? 

Elon Musk is the bad guy here.

Ruprecht

#27
Quote from: Crusader X on November 25, 2024, 05:50:55 PMBob World Builder's take on WotC trashing Gary Gygax? 

Elon Musk is the bad guy here.
I don't know why I expected anything from Bob but it made me sad that he sided with the Gygax haters. Musk wasn't just trying to churn up controversy for his platform, that's a simpleton's analysis.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Crusader X on November 25, 2024, 05:50:55 PMElon Musk is the bad guy here.

  I've only taken a quick glance at the massive thread on EN World, but that seems to be their take as well.

SHARK

Greetings!

Bob World Builder seems like a fucking moron.

And with all his whining about "We want EVERYONE to play!"--NO, we don't. The obvious strife, drama, and all the Woke BS that has flowed into the hobby is precisely because too many gamers were weak fucking pussies that didn't gatekeep hard enough and see the threat posed for the hobby from Marxist Woke freaks.

From that, the hobby has become choked and shot through with Woke jello and Woke BS.

So, NO. We don't want EVERYONE to play.

Fucking moron. Elon Musk is right. And Grummz is spot the fuck on as usual.

You can also tell that Bob World Builder doesn't even lift. His lack of testosterone has affected his mind, and it has sabotaged his mental abilities and judgment.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b