I thought this one deserved its own thread.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/07/09/dungeons-dragons-adds-triggers-warnings-for-old-products/

QuoteIn a subsequent tweet they wrote, "This is an early step and not done in a vacuum. It's not enough to evaluate ourselves. As outlined in our original diversity statement, we're undergoing the process of reviewing our content and practices and hiring external consultants to review with us."

Quote from: Trond;1139304I thought this one deserved its own thread.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/07/09/dungeons-dragons-adds-triggers-warnings-for-old-products/

One more thing that white males enjoy has been successfully conquered.

'External consultants'?  Great so things go haywire down the road and the backlash builds, they can fob the blame off on a contractor.  Good thinking!

Reminds me of this scene:
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Gonna copy over a post from another thread.

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1138883If the problem is the people and not the game, then WotC wouldn't have to put a disclaimer in front of the books. Which is the entire point of this thread. And, by only putting this disclaimer on older versions of the game, they are stating that anyone who likes those older versions doesn't have a problem with "ethnic, racial, and gender prejudice" which is an attack on the OSR.

This is effectivley WOTC declaring "war" on TSR D&D and people who like it.

WTF are sensitivity readers? How does one actually make a career out of that? What kind of education does it require?

Quote from: 3rik;1139327WTF are sensitivity readers?

People who read your works (such as RPG books) for "problematic" content and offer ways to sanitize it in accordance with their ideology.

Quote from: 3rik;1139327How does one actually make a career out of that?

Swindle people into believing that their written works are "problematic" and that there is widespread social concern from "marginalized" groups about the presence of "offensive" and "harmful" material necessitating the submission of all written works to an external authority for review.

Quote from: 3rik;1139327What kind of education does it require?

Critical "Theory"

Quote from: 3rik;1139327WTF are sensitivity readers?

They are basically communist censors, but lame. They are supposed to read stuff corresponding to their demographic (gay, black, autigender, etc.) and offer suggestions to improve the text and weed out or correct things which could be offensive. Employing sensitivity readers is increasingly mandatory at publishing houses.

Quote from: 3rik;1139327How does one actually make a career out of that?

It is more of a "gig economy" hustle than a career. Monetised twitter nitpicking for the quasi-unemployed, basically.

Quote from: 3rik;1139327What kind of education does it require?

Unlike OG communist censors - who were usually very learned men and women from the higher ranks of the cultural elite - the only qualifications are "belonging to a demographic" and "being part of the rainbow brigade" (obviously). They are nobodies, and their opinions are by and large worthless, or worse.

Quote from: 3rik;1139327WTF are sensitivity readers? How does one actually make a career out of that? What kind of education does it require?

This is where the thread heads into the culture war topic.

Quote from: 3rik;1139327WTF are sensitivity readers? How does one actually make a career out of that? What kind of education does it require?

That's a rabbit hole best discussed outside of the gaming forum

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1139335This is where the thread heads into the culture war topic.

Well, at least I made sure to mention RPG books in my reply as an example of stuff subjected to the whims of  "sensitivity readers".

Well why support a company that clearly doesn't want many of you in "their community"?

/shrug.

It's abundantly clear that WOTC doesn't want their game to be compared to TSR and AD&D.  They don't want to hear that all the updates and changes to the game haven't improved the game very much.

Quote from: Razor 007;1139358It's abundantly clear that WOTC doesn't want their game to be compared to TSR and AD&D.  They don't want to hear that all the updates and changes to the game haven't improved the game very much.

It's abundantly clear YOU (and me, and others that disagree with them) are not *wanted* as customers. All of this stuff is just window-dressing to justify their real desires. So you either bend the knee and give them money in silence, and watch them crap all over their legacy material and it's player-base publicly, or you take your money elsewhere and let them do what they're going to do regardless of what you or I think they ought to do.

It's obvious they don't want to be compared to TSR. TSR is a stain on their ideology. But that's kinda obvious. They've drawn a line in the sand and you are on the wrong side of it. Just like me.

Quote from: tenbones;1139368It's abundantly clear YOU (and me, and others that disagree with them) are not *wanted* as customers. All of this stuff is just window-dressing to justify their real desires. So you either bend the knee and give them money in silence, and watch them crap all over their legacy material and it's player-base publicly, or you take your money elsewhere and let them do what they're going to do regardless of what you or I think they ought to do.

It's obvious they don't want to be compared to TSR. TSR is a stain on their ideology. But that's kinda obvious. They've drawn a line in the sand and you are on the wrong side of it. Just like me.

TSR was a flyover country business. WOTC is a West Coast business. That snobbery on the part of the latter goes all the way back to the LA SF fandom scene of the 1970s, and their reaction to OD&D. Jon Peterson chronicles those events well in Playing at the World.

Quote from: tenbones;1139348Well why support a company that clearly doesn't want many of you in "their community"?

/shrug.

   Last stuff I bought from them was PoD of some old 2nd Edition stuff over a year ago, and I probably won't do that again. I could live with removing all the stuff with the WotC label on it from my D&D collection. (Not my broader RPG collection--I like the d20 Star Wars material too much--and I want to hold on to some of the things that were published with the TSR logo, so I'm rules-lawyering a bit. )

  Between the old TSR stuff, the OSR, the third-party OGL material, and the vast array of other games, who needs WotC or Paizo?