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RPGs: Setting vs. System

Started by Bloody Stupid Johnson, April 25, 2012, 10:12:48 PM

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AikiGhost

#90
May 22, 2012, 06:57:22 AM
Quote from: Koltar;533954True Dat.

Any Setting will work with ANY System - as long as you have a Good and Creative GM.


It all goes back to the GM.


- Ed C.

Though to be fair a good and creative GM will choose a system that is genre appropriate.

Not much point in running a Barabarians of lemuria heroic S&S style game with say Vampire the masquerade, when you could actually just use BoL or similar. In the same way that running a gritty horror game will be easier with say Call of Chthulu than BoL.

Choosing an inappropriate system for a game is just making a rod for your own back. Choosing an appropriate system helps the GM with the "heavy lifting".
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LordVreeg

#91
May 22, 2012, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: AikiGhost;541056Though to be fair a good and creative GM will choose a system that is genre appropriate.

Not much point in running a Barabarians of lemuria heroic S&S style game with say Vampire the masquerade, when you could actually just use BoL or similar. In the same way that running a gritty horror game will be easier with say Call of Chthulu than BoL.

Choosing an inappropriate system for a game is just making a rod for your own back. Choosing an appropriate system helps the GM with the "heavy lifting".

Vreeg's first Rule of Setting Design
"Make sure the ruleset you are using matches the setting and game you want to play, because the setting and game WILL eventually match the system."

Part of being a good GM is play at the table; running a good game, and making the magic happen with the tools at hand.  

Another part of being a good GM is designing/creating a game that synergizes setting and system. Saying that any system works with any setting with a good GM is actually incorrect; a criterion for being a good GM is the ability to recognize the ramifications of rules and matching the a ruleset with a setting and playstyle.  A good GM does not force the round peg in the square hole for 4 hours twice a week.
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TristramEvans

#92
May 22, 2012, 04:08:26 PM Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 04:15:21 PM by TristramEvans
Great Settings & Rules:

Amber
Ars Magica
Call of Cthulhu
Changeling: The Lost
Doctor Who: Adventures in Time & Space
James Bond: 007
Jovian Chronicles
Marvel Superheroes (FASERIP)
The One Ring
Paranoia
Pendragon
Prince Valiant
Reve: The Dream Oroborus
Star Wars (WEG)
Tenchi Muyo
Tribe 8
Warhammer 1st Edition

Great Settings, Crappy Rules:

pretty much everything by Palladium
Aliens
Blue Planet
Castle Falkenstein
Chill
Dangerquest
Dark Sun
Deliria
Discworld
Everway
Fading Suns
Godlike
Hellboy
Indiana Jones
Jorune
Kult
Lord of the Rings
Masters of the Universe
Mechwarrior
M.E.R.P.
Nephilim
Over The Edge
Planescape
Shadowrun
SLA Industries
Space 1889
Teenagers From Outer Space (2nd edition, before it became an anime game)
TORG
Traveller
The Willow Game


Great Rules, Crappy/Inappropriate Settings:

Blue Rose
Dallas
Blood of Heroes
Ironclaw
Marvel Saga
Riddle of Steel
7th Sea
Warhammer 3rd ed

MoonHunter

#93
May 29, 2012, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;533946Pendragon and Flashing Blades.

Scooped.

I would through L5R into this list. It is a perfect marriage of setting and system.
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Marleycat

#94
May 29, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: TristramEvans;541220Great Settings, Crappy Rules:

pretty much everything by Palladium
Aliens
Blue Planet
Castle Falkenstein
Chill
Dangerquest
Dark Sun
Deliria
Discworld
Everway
Fading Suns
Godlike
Hellboy
Indiana Jones
Jorune
Kult
Lord of the Rings
Masters of the Universe
Mechwarrior
M.E.R.P.
Nephilim
Over The Edge
Planescape
Shadowrun
SLA Industries
Space 1889
Teenagers From Outer Space (2nd edition, before it became an anime game)
TORG
Traveller
The Willow Game


Is it wrong that I prefer this list of games over the other 2 sets?
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TristramEvans

#95
May 29, 2012, 05:51:47 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;543621Is it wrong that I prefer this list of games over the other 2 sets?


Yes. you should feel very bad. :)

Actually some of them are very decent games, though a few (Aliens, MotU, etc) are frankly unplayable.

Bloody Stupid Johnson

#96
May 29, 2012, 07:56:16 PM
Hmm...so what's  Masters of the Universe like? Never seen a copy of this.
Any ideas/mechanics worth salvaging in there?

TristramEvans

#97
May 29, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;543650Hmm...so what's  Masters of the Universe like? Never seen a copy of this.
Any ideas/mechanics worth salvaging in there?

No, absolutely not. Except maybe the nostalgia factor of the box art.

It was really, really, really bad. And kinda nonsensical. Imagine one of the worst examples of crippleware "intro RPG" games combined with the type of boardgame one might have found on the back of a cereal box in the 80s.

Bloody Stupid Johnson

#98
May 29, 2012, 08:19:07 PM
Ah well, thanks :)
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