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DriveThruRPG and more censorship

Started by squirewaldo, February 14, 2023, 05:48:38 PM

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Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 25, 2023, 01:12:45 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what Squirewaldo said.

Well, that post where he said he felt like making an RPG where you play SS Guards raping and killing jews in a death camp, just to "own the libs" of DTRPG in some way.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on February 25, 2023, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 25, 2023, 01:12:45 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what Squirewaldo said.

Well, that post where he said he felt like making an RPG where you play SS Guards raping and killing jews in a death camp, just to "own the libs" of DTRPG in some way.

There you go again taking my comments out of context. Feel free to boot me from this forum since I am so unhinged.

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Quote from: squirewaldo on February 25, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 25, 2023, 05:49:38 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 24, 2023, 11:18:49 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 24, 2023, 03:23:04 PM


Boycotting OBS is pointless if there's no viable alternative site to sell products from. You just kill the OSR, the only viable remaining movement with anti-woke activism, while OBS takes at most a minor hit.  You're stabbing yourself in the jugular, hoping that some of your blood might stain your enemy's pretty dress.

The answer is CREATE A FUCKING FREE-SPEECH RPG-SELLER WEBSITE THAT WORKS. BGE at this moment is not it.

If the OSR depends upon OBS/DTRPG to survive... does it deserve to survive?


If it doesn't, then you don't have a hobby anymore. The entire hobby will belong to the Stalinists. You'll have been a useful idiot who did their job for them by not supporting the game designers who actually stand up to wokeness.

So I must support abusive woke marxist bastards in order not to be a useful idiot... Maybe I should start knitting... oh never mind. Whittling perhaps. No wokistas in whittling are there???? :)

Presumably you don't have a bank or a mastercard right? Because they've cancelled anti-woke people to. Likewise paypal. And Youtube. No more watching right-wing videos on Youtube, because otherwise you're giving the "libs" money! Better that anyone speaking out or trying to make content that stands up to the neo-marxist assault on our civilization be reduced to living on the streets and only being able to write their rpg products in chalk on the pavement than that you give a single penny to the unfair and unbalanced content providers that nevertheless make it possible for people to create a counterculture that can actually reach someone other than militia members on a cb radio.

Right? Right you fucking moron? Better that the entire hobby burn down so that you can imagine that you've "owned the libs" by costing them a tiny bit of money while bankrupting EVERYONE who was on your side, right? You'll be able to brag about how you never compromised when they send you to a rehabilitation camp, thanking you for having helped them take full control of mainstream society.
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Quote from: squirewaldo on February 25, 2023, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 25, 2023, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 25, 2023, 01:12:45 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what Squirewaldo said.

Well, that post where he said he felt like making an RPG where you play SS Guards raping and killing jews in a death camp, just to "own the libs" of DTRPG in some way.

There you go again taking my comments out of context. Feel free to boot me from this forum since I am so unhinged.

I'm the one who said you are unhinged.

And the suicide by Pundit. Nice. You are following the victim playbook chapter by chapter.

RPGPundit

At this point I'm playing the guessing game: Neo-nazi dude pretending to be a Jew  OR  Just a Retard?


Which do you think?
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squirewaldo

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 25, 2023, 06:11:10 PM
The context:

You are still taking a joke out of context. That was all it was. A joke. Maybe a bad joke. Maybe a stupid joke. But just a joke. A joke I have not repeated after your kind notice of objection. I am in 100% compliance with your dictates. Repeating yourself does not make it any different. Continued accusations are of course your option though since you are El Hefe!

Do what you want; I don't really care anymore. I have been insulted. Called names. Attacked for wrong-think. I might as well join a forum filled with humorless woke drones. Could that be any worse? (Yes, of course it could!!!! That was a tongue in cheek rhetorical question just in case you want to take that comment out of context. No need to explain to me how stupid I am for not realizing how much worse a woke forum would be. Unless it just makes you happy.)

This is my last comment. If you guys want to continue to abuse me, pile on. Call me names. Party on Dudes! I am out of here for now! :)

S'mon

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 25, 2023, 06:15:05 PM
At this point I'm playing the guessing game: Neo-nazi dude pretending to be a Jew  OR  Just a Retard?

Which do you think?

Just an idiot.
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Quote from: squirewaldo on February 25, 2023, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 25, 2023, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 25, 2023, 01:12:45 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what Squirewaldo said.

Well, that post where he said he felt like making an RPG where you play SS Guards raping and killing jews in a death camp, just to "own the libs" of DTRPG in some way.

There you go again taking my comments out of context. Feel free to boot me from this forum since I am so unhinged.

My personal rule, and my best advice for anyone, is never to post online while angry.  While angry, one goes strait for extremes - no middle way, no compromise, just damn the torpedoes, full speed!

And right there is where you are.  You have a legit complaint, and people have a legit argument with your position.  Right now though, you're angry and more directed toward conflict than discussion.  Take a day off.  Seriously.  Sleep on it and realize it's just a thread on a forum, not a life breaking decision.

And a company that can claim all your work, submitted or not, is the sterling standard of an abusive monopoly. 

Anon Adderlan

Quote from: Wtrmute on February 23, 2023, 06:53:26 PM
I think S'mon came up with a very good solution, didn't he? There's no need to criticise anyone and the image is still visible by whoever wants to see it, just click on the link   ;D

Indeed, but who is actually accountable for censoring such?

The miniature manufacturer?
The image poster?
The site hosting the link?
The site hosting the image?
The internet service provider?
The payment processor used to pay for it all?

Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 24, 2023, 08:43:11 AM
One game promoted REAL LIFE VIOLENCE, and cited at least one terrorist group of the past as inspiration, and suggested that people be active like them.  I provided sources/  They ignored me because he's a platinum seller (which = $$$ for them), plus the seller's politics align with OBS's left bias.

Why the hell are you activist types so consistently ambiguous (I ask rhetorically because I know damn well what the answer is and am sick of entertaining this bullshit)? Please link and elucidate or go away.

Quote from: squirewaldo on February 25, 2023, 01:10:54 AM
In the ongoing drama of DTRPG, I have had 8 new reviews left today. All negative. More reviews than I have received in the last 10 years. Positive reviews have disappeared. Ok.

Holy shit did people just forget how the internet works? If this is the case then provide links and prove it. And if you don't want to link to #DTRPG then link to archives, which would have been useful in proving your good reviews were removed too.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 24, 2023, 02:59:02 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on February 21, 2023, 04:17:01 PM
Quote from: Naburimannu on February 20, 2023, 05:02:42 PM

It takes a couple of seconds of Googling to bring up counter-evidence: https://twitter.com/EvilHatOfficial/status/1448774890266390533; then, a couple of minutes of figuring out Twitter search syntax to get more: https://twitter.com/EvilHatOfficial/status/1463599029212880901

According to the publisher, Thirsty Sword Lesbians sold over 13k copies in the first 3-6 months after the kickstarter, which is grossing 195k+; grossing over $500k in the first year including the second $100k Kickstarter.

Another $40k+ gross in first quarter 2022? https://twitter.com/EvilHatOfficial/status/1516871792140308480

That's not "virtual no money".

Some have accepted the mantra of "get woke go broke" so fervently that they're in complete denial when virtue signaling and pissing off the 'right' people makes bank, even when they profit from the same kind of outrage marketing. And anyone saying this isn't a lot of sales/money when it comes to RPGs is just straightlining copium.


It's not "no money", but it's also not nearly as much money as it sounds. Dude, I did a video about this. When you consider the KS cut, the production costs for fulfillment, and then the fact hat evil hat has what... anywhere from 12-30 people that will need to be paid? That money all evaporates really fast.

If you're a one-man operation, and you are cautious about what you promise in a KS, and you don't have to contract for too much in art costs, layout, etc, you could make a tidy profit. But if you're a bloated company full of useless leftists, the NET (rather than gross) income might not even be enough to satisfy your Kombucha expenses.

Woke or not a lot of money will become very little money if you mismanage things. But I do not know much about #EvilHat's internal operations, and have yet to see how unionizing affected #Paizo.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 24, 2023, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: jhkim on February 23, 2023, 07:12:35 PM
Interestingly, it seems they have about as much income and employees as a creator like Pinnacle Entertainment Group, which also has about $5M yearly income and around 25 employees.

https://www.konaequity.com/company/pinnacle-entertainment-group-inc-4397994889/

How the hell is that even possible?! Pinnacle hasn't had a real hit since the 1990s. It's entirely running on Savage Worlds fandom. Which I guess goes to show that the "Palladium Model" of having a small cadre of absolute fanatics is a pretty good business model.

It'll probably work for the Red Room too.

It makes me sick to say but this is literally the only model which works. And how well this works for #TheRedRoom depends entirely on how much money their whales are willing and able to spend.

Quote from: squirewaldo on February 25, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
So I must support abusive woke marxist bastards in order not to be a useful idiot...

Yes.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, you can't operate without compromise in a society, and if they're engaging in capitalism they aren't Marxists in the first place.

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Quote from: Chris24601 on February 20, 2023, 09:32:29 AM
Well, I guess the first question to ask is "which is more viable, trying to get OBS to be more fair, or build enough interest in something like Big Geek Emporium to make it a viable competitor?"


In the annals of history when have any of these fuckwits ever changed course without being completely bought out and replaced? About none. They will die for the cause gladly.

BGG has 4 years in a row underfunded since getting progressively more woke and censoring. Still fucking forging ahead and in the last year added a new "safe space" for non CIS meanies because apparently there was rampant anti gay meanness on the forums just like there was rampant meanness to the poor helpless women. Next will be the Minorities Safe Space and then the Handicapped one.

Drive-Thru will only get worse. Just like Yahoo Groups did.

Rob Necronomicon

That's why we need to support places like BGE and spread the word. So at least other folks know of its existence.

Chris24601

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 27, 2023, 01:07:53 PM
That's why we need to support places like BGE and spread the word. So at least other folks know of its existence.
If BGE had a single product I was even remotely interested in buying I would throw something their way. They do not.

In terms of prioritizing my gaming expenditures though I prefer to support my local game store with orders instead of anyplace online (and direct from publishers otherwise).