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DriveThruRPG and more censorship

Started by squirewaldo, February 14, 2023, 05:48:38 PM

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squirewaldo

February 14, 2023, 05:48:38 PM
I just got an email from DriveThruRPG telling me one of my games has been pulled because of... offensive material. It is set in WW II and involves the French Resistance and the British SAS fighting against some very weird occultists. Supposedly it offended a buyer who used it to shut me down! Hahahahaha! Fuck em.

The funny thing is that I was thinking of shutting it down along with just about everything else until my 6 month exclusivity period is over.

weirdguy564

#1
February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM Last Edit: February 14, 2023, 05:55:34 PM by weirdguy564
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults. 

My thinking has always been, "You bought it. You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you the arbiter of taste.  Something you're clearly not qualified for as you bought something you could properly research."

https://biggeekemporium.com/
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

squirewaldo

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February 14, 2023, 05:55:56 PM Last Edit: February 14, 2023, 09:41:18 PM by squirewaldo
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults.  You bought.  You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you king. 

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I have. I love them! I just discovered them a few weeks ago and have been posting stuff that is not on DTRPG (due to the damned exclusivity that I canceled last month but still has the balance of 6 months to go). Now I can post it there!

JeremyR

#3
February 14, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
That's the thing about censorship. Once you start, it just gets easier and easier to ban stuff.

I am curious as to the reason. The SAS? I know the Irish don't like them. Referring to the French as "the French" (some news agency just said that was offensive)

squirewaldo

#4
February 14, 2023, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: JeremyR on February 14, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
That's the thing about censorship. Once you start, it just gets easier and easier to ban stuff.

I am curious as to the reason. The SAS? I know the Irish don't like them. Referring to the French as "the French" (some news agency just said that was offensive)

Hahahahaha! I have no idea! They have not shared with me the details, and I suspect they will not do so in the future.

Wtrmute

#5
February 14, 2023, 08:22:57 PM
I'm sorry to hear that, Squirewaldo; while I myself am the kind of guy who doesn't appreciate certain racy themes (not that this particular game seems to be that), it's not Drivethru's place to make that decision for people.

At the very most, they could place the document on the "NSFW" class which requires buyers to tick a checkbox in their profile to see...

FingerRod

#6
February 14, 2023, 08:38:26 PM
I made a promise to myself not give them another dollar after the last time they censored. Pricks.

Mithgarthr

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February 14, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults.  You bought.  You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you king. 

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I have love them! I just discovered them a few weeks ago and have been posting stuff that is not on DTRPG (due to the damned exclusivity that I canceled last month but still has the balance of 6 months to go). Now I can post it there!

FYI, the exclusivity is for print items only; you can sell PDFs of stuff on BGE that you have up on DTRPG even before the exclusivity is up.

squirewaldo

#8
February 14, 2023, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: Wtrmute on February 14, 2023, 08:22:57 PM
I'm sorry to hear that, Squirewaldo; while I myself am the kind of guy who doesn't appreciate certain racy themes (not that this particular game seems to be that), it's not Drivethru's place to make that decision for people.

At the very most, they could place the document on the "NSFW" class which requires buyers to tick a checkbox in their profile to see...

I can only speculate as to WHY there is a problem, but I know it is not because it is in any way racy. The only thing I can think about is that the game is about WW II, and it is about the Nazis and some other very strange occult sort of things that Nazis dabbled in. But I don't know. It might be because I used the wrong font size, or that I used an image that someone finds alarming????

squirewaldo

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February 14, 2023, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Mithgarthr on February 14, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults.  You bought.  You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you king. 

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I have love them! I just discovered them a few weeks ago and have been posting stuff that is not on DTRPG (due to the damned exclusivity that I canceled last month but still has the balance of 6 months to go). Now I can post it there!

FYI, the exclusivity is for print items only; you can sell PDFs of stuff on BGE that you have up on DTRPG even before the exclusivity is up.

From what I understand it is the other way around. They exclusivity on my PDFs, and print on demand is fine elsewhere.

Jamfke

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February 14, 2023, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Mithgarthr on February 14, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults.  You bought.  You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you king. 

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I have love them! I just discovered them a few weeks ago and have been posting stuff that is not on DTRPG (due to the damned exclusivity that I canceled last month but still has the balance of 6 months to go). Now I can post it there!

FYI, the exclusivity is for print items only; you can sell PDFs of stuff on BGE that you have up on DTRPG even before the exclusivity is up.

From what I understand it is the other way around. They exclusivity on my PDFs, and print on demand is fine elsewhere.

Yes, it's for sales of PDFs elsewhere. I posted a couple of titles on BGE and within a week or so got an email from OBS saying that I'd lost my exclusivity with them because of it. It's stupid really. It's not like I was advertising BGE on their site or anything. Still selling on both sites, but not happy at losing an extra 5% for trying to expand my sales reach...
Thanks,
James F Keck
Keck Publishing
4C or Not 4C? The real question is why not 4C Expanded? PWYW now at DriveThruRPG

Effete

#11
February 15, 2023, 01:59:57 AM
I've always been an advocate for taking the higher road and sticking to one's principles, but this type of shit is maddening. It really makes me want to see these crybabies get a dose of their own medicine. An overdose even.

Mithgarthr

#12
February 15, 2023, 07:11:03 AM
Quote from: Jamfke on February 14, 2023, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Mithgarthr on February 14, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults.  You bought.  You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you king. 

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I have love them! I just discovered them a few weeks ago and have been posting stuff that is not on DTRPG (due to the damned exclusivity that I canceled last month but still has the balance of 6 months to go). Now I can post it there!

FYI, the exclusivity is for print items only; you can sell PDFs of stuff on BGE that you have up on DTRPG even before the exclusivity is up.

From what I understand it is the other way around. They exclusivity on my PDFs, and print on demand is fine elsewhere.

Yes, it's for sales of PDFs elsewhere. I posted a couple of titles on BGE and within a week or so got an email from OBS saying that I'd lost my exclusivity with them because of it. It's stupid really. It's not like I was advertising BGE on their site or anything. Still selling on both sites, but not happy at losing an extra 5% for trying to expand my sales reach...

You're both correct; I had it totally backwards. Derp. Just checked my email from six months ago when I hit them up to end it. That's wild though... I had it in my head it was print, so I uploaded PDFs to BGE and they've been there for a few months now. My exclusivity ends in two days on the 17th, and I'd been waiting to put up print versions until then because of that, haha.

squirewaldo

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February 15, 2023, 08:34:12 AM Last Edit: February 15, 2023, 08:38:16 AM by squirewaldo
Quote from: Mithgarthr on February 15, 2023, 07:11:03 AM
Quote from: Jamfke on February 14, 2023, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Mithgarthr on February 14, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: squirewaldo on February 14, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 14, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
There is an alternate site created just for this reason.  Big geek emporium.  Randy and Joe made the site because DTRPG pulls things that are "offensive".  Or so they say, as they're our mommy and we're not adults.  You bought.  You delete it from your account.  But it stays up for everyone else because nobody made you king. 

https://biggeekemporium.com/

I have love them! I just discovered them a few weeks ago and have been posting stuff that is not on DTRPG (due to the damned exclusivity that I canceled last month but still has the balance of 6 months to go). Now I can post it there!

FYI, the exclusivity is for print items only; you can sell PDFs of stuff on BGE that you have up on DTRPG even before the exclusivity is up.

From what I understand it is the other way around. They exclusivity on my PDFs, and print on demand is fine elsewhere.

Yes, it's for sales of PDFs elsewhere. I posted a couple of titles on BGE and within a week or so got an email from OBS saying that I'd lost my exclusivity with them because of it. It's stupid really. It's not like I was advertising BGE on their site or anything. Still selling on both sites, but not happy at losing an extra 5% for trying to expand my sales reach...

You're both correct; I had it totally backwards. Derp. Just checked my email from six months ago when I hit them up to end it. That's wild though... I had it in my head it was print, so I uploaded PDFs to BGE and they've been there for a few months now. My exclusivity ends in two days on the 17th, and I'd been waiting to put up print versions until then because of that, haha.

DTRPG makes things unnecessarily complicated. I am not posting anything new to them until the 6 months passes and I am non-exclusive for PDFs, and even then I will have to think about it. In fact I have already started pulling stuff from them.

When I started posting things on their site about 10 years ago they were great. Very helpful, and they seemed sincerely interested in helping a goofy amateur like me. Now not so much. In fact I get the impression that they would prefer if small authors like me just went away.
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