Just to play devil's advocate here:

Gruesome details of child dismemberment and molestation are not necessarily suitable for all platforms, simply by being accurate or clinical. Something read in court by necessity, for instance, maybe wouldn't mesh with the ethos of the Disney channel, for instance.

Personally I'd support the site allowing even very adult or disturbing content, by simply adding mature content tags; but I'm not a modern bedwetter company, beset by cry-bully activists 24/7.   

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned. 

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

Sounds fucking great.

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

Oh my where are my pearls???

And I may very well buy it! That sounds like what free speech is all about!

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

Could you provide some examples?

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

I just had another thought... Is Red Room doing a Kanye West??? Being so provocative that they cut him? Maybe I should do something like that. I have 4 and a half months before my exclusivity clause is dead, and until then they have me throttled down to zero. HMMMMM?

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

You got the memo if you actually watched Bloodworth's vid. I mean the tagline is a game 'worse' than FATAL (allegedly). It's so over the top in its vulgarity it can only be seen as a work of satire (as it states multiple times).

This is not a game for certain 'conservative' types or the wokescolds.

It's not a game I'd play because I'm not into comedy RPGs I bought it purely to support for RR and out of sheer curiosity.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 17, 2023, 01:05:19 PM

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

You got the memo if you actually watched Bloodworth's vid. I mean the tagline is a game 'worse' than FATAL (allegedly). It's so over the top in its vulgarity it can only be seen as a work of satire (as it states multiple times).

This is not a game for certain 'conservative' types or the wokescolds.

It's not a game I'd play because I'm not into comedy RPGs I bought it purely to support for RR and out of sheer curiosity.

If it doesn't have 'circumference' tables for infants, it's not worse than FATAL.

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 01:07:21 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 17, 2023, 01:05:19 PM

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

You got the memo if you actually watched Bloodworth's vid. I mean the tagline is a game 'worse' than FATAL (allegedly). It's so over the top in its vulgarity it can only be seen as a work of satire (as it states multiple times).

This is not a game for certain 'conservative' types or the wokescolds.

It's not a game I'd play because I'm not into comedy RPGs I bought it purely to support for RR and out of sheer curiosity.

If it doesn't have 'circumference' tables for infants, it's not worse than FATAL.

Yummy! That's why I said allegedly.

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 01:07:21 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 17, 2023, 01:05:19 PM

Quote from: weirdguy564 on February 17, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 16, 2023, 10:35:20 AM
More censorship from the pearl clutchers at D.T.

The Red Room's satirical game 'Men' has been pulled.

I just bought "Men!", the RPG based on a brief overview by DM Bloodworth's YouTube channel.

Now, I'm ok with the satirical content, but this game has no boundaries.  NONE!   Example.  There is tons of stuff that would make Andrew Dice Clay or Joe Pesci from the Goodfellas movie stop and apologize to women and gay men. 

You.  Have.  Been.  Warned.

You got the memo if you actually watched Bloodworth's vid. I mean the tagline is a game 'worse' than FATAL (allegedly). It's so over the top in its vulgarity it can only be seen as a work of satire (as it states multiple times).

This is not a game for certain 'conservative' types or the wokescolds.

It's not a game I'd play because I'm not into comedy RPGs I bought it purely to support for RR and out of sheer curiosity.

If it doesn't have 'circumference' tables for infants, it's not worse than FATAL.

The more I learn abouut the people of this planet, the less I want to live among them.

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
Just to play devil's advocate here:

Gruesome details of child dismemberment and molestation are not necessarily suitable for all platforms, simply by being accurate or clinical. Something read in court by necessity, for instance, maybe wouldn't mesh with the ethos of the Disney channel, for instance.

Personally I'd support the site allowing even very adult or disturbing content, by simply adding mature content tags; but I'm not a modern bedwetter company, beset by cry-bully activists 24/7.

This right here, what has the world come to when a Christian, Conservative, Puritan (ME) thinks that if it doesn't break the law it should be allowed to exist, just label it so I don't click/buy by accident. Meanwhile the "liberals" are for censorship of porn, violence, etc.

It feels like I'm in the upside-down world. But then again I was on my Edgy-Atheist fase when the Christians had the power and were the censorious ones.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 17, 2023, 01:30:02 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
Gruesome details of child dismemberment and molestation are not necessarily suitable for all platforms, simply by being accurate or clinical. Something read in court by necessity, for instance, maybe wouldn't mesh with the ethos of the Disney channel, for instance.

Personally I'd support the site allowing even very adult or disturbing content, by simply adding mature content tags; but I'm not a modern bedwetter company, beset by cry-bully activists 24/7.

This right here, what has the world come to when a Christian, Conservative, Puritan (ME) thinks that if it doesn't break the law it should be allowed to exist, just label it so I don't click/buy by accident. Meanwhile the "liberals" are for censorship of porn, violence, etc.

I feel the real problem here is the effective monopoly that DriveThruRPG has.

Absent monopoly, I think it's perfectly reasonable that a given store doesn't want to carry pornographic and/or otherwise edgy products. There should be different stores with different standards. And some products will have to be self-published and self-distributed, like underground comics or chapbooks. If a given store won't sell your pornography for you, that doesn't inherently mean they're anti-freedom and anti-free-speech.

Men! The RPG examples.   Remember, you asked for this.

Super, over the top misogyny and old school sensibilities about straight sex good.  Gay sex?  Not so much.  Nothing is held sacred.

For example, one chapter is managing your erection, which is a thing in this game as the type gives you bonuses in situations your manly PC likes.  Includes things like murder of people you don't like will "raise" your boner stat.   Yup.  That level of weird.

The stats for women are in the items list with the rest of the gear, obviously.

Feminazis are a monster type, drawn towards any happiness which they must destroy.  Super hot Gorgons are monsters too, and flashing you is an attack type.   

I'm not even going to try any of the really bad stuff.  It's NSFW so much I'm not even sure 4-Chan would allow it up on their site. 

Quote from: jhkim on February 17, 2023, 02:09:12 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 17, 2023, 01:30:02 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 17, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
Gruesome details of child dismemberment and molestation are not necessarily suitable for all platforms, simply by being accurate or clinical. Something read in court by necessity, for instance, maybe wouldn't mesh with the ethos of the Disney channel, for instance.

Personally I'd support the site allowing even very adult or disturbing content, by simply adding mature content tags; but I'm not a modern bedwetter company, beset by cry-bully activists 24/7.

This right here, what has the world come to when a Christian, Conservative, Puritan (ME) thinks that if it doesn't break the law it should be allowed to exist, just label it so I don't click/buy by accident. Meanwhile the "liberals" are for censorship of porn, violence, etc.

I feel the real problem here is the effective monopoly that DriveThruRPG has.

Absent monopoly, I think it's perfectly reasonable that a given store doesn't want to carry pornographic and/or otherwise edgy products. There should be different stores with different standards. And some products will have to be self-published and self-distributed, like underground comics or chapbooks. If a given store won't sell your pornography for you, that doesn't inherently mean they're anti-freedom and anti-free-speech.

The REAL problem is the "liberals" and their censorious ways.

But I love how you go to the "It's a private company and can do what it wants" defense, up until some billionaire con-man you disagree with comes and buys it. Then suddenly you guys go back to demanding the government do something because the corporation isn't working in tandem with it to trample the citizens rights.

That sounds eerily familiar, if only I could remember where/when the corporations were an arm of the state... 

To keep this on DriveThruRPG, something I'd like to see is a list of what products were banned from DriveThruRPG and why. But then, I'd also want to see a list of posters who are banned from theRPGsite and why. Eric Diaz started this:

Quote from: Eric Diaz on February 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
Last time I was asked, I said DTRPG rarely banned games, but now I'm thinking there should be a list of banned books so we can keep track.

I'd only heard f three cases before this one:

- Tournament of Rapists, allegedly because contained (fictional) SA.
- A famous OSR author who was allegedly accused of certain things.
- The Good Syma'arian, allegedly because it contained violence against (fictional) children.

I'd add to this that in 2019 they banned the game Police_Procedure for anti-police hate, and then the publisher Transfelinism for slander. They also banned Dave Johnson Games' "Alarums & Journeys" in 2022. And now Black Sun over Europe (product) and Red Room (publisher) in 2023.

Can anyone add to this list?

Thus far, it is significant, but they're carrying many thousands of RPG titles. They don't seem to be like RPGnet supposedly is with frequent bans. In fact, their bans seem less frequent than RPGPundit's bans.