Don't be a dick at a con.

droog · November 30, 2006, 05:23:45 PM

I thought you guys thought pirates were cool. Johnny Depp and all that.

Mcrow · November 30, 2006, 05:24:09 PM

Quote from: J ArcanePiracy is a popular term amongst RIAA types for the implications of it, but it's not at all the correct term for intellectual property violations.

whatever, you know what we mean. :pimpdahoe:

Sosthenes · November 30, 2006, 05:24:48 PM

Quote from: McrowI spelled right and used it in the right context!?!

"Software piracy" seems to be the common term, but it's about as bad as calling computer criminals "hackers". A pirate is a maritime robber. He takes stuff from other people by force. With copyright infringement, (most of the time) force isn't a factor. Comparing someone who swaps CDROM's with the latest games to murderers of the seven seas is utterly ridiculous, a ruse used by some companies and agencies to spread FUD.

After all, if there were that many software pirates, would we have global warming? I rest my case.

Silverlion · November 30, 2006, 05:25:41 PM

Quote from: SpikeThe fact that Luke is apparently an egomaniac who only came to bask in his reflected glory, rather than address a potential customer, for me, is trivial. If he sells a product I want, I'll buy it for the right price. His personal flaws don't factor into it, and neither would percieved celebrity, real or otherwise.

Yeah well, a lot of indie designers have ego issues, I'm not exactly sure why (Luke, Ron Edwards, and a few others).

Maybe that's what it takes to publish something off-norm from the rest of the hobby.

I certianly hope not, I think Clash (Flyingmice), and Levi are both rock on good lads for example (and despite what Clash says I think he's got some brilliant non-grognardy bits in his games), and Cynthia Celeste Miller (Cartoon Action Hour) a good lass.

Must be why H&S isn't talked about so much, I don't make a big enough ass of myself.

Levi Kornelsen · November 30, 2006, 05:27:21 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneThen what are you displeased with? Simply that he is in fact having you on, or the mere fact that he used the piracy reference at all, serious or no?

He threatened to harm - in however small a fashion - someone's actual livelihood.

In order to score points in an internet flame war.

Yes, falsely. Yes, purely to provoke a response. Doesn't matter.

That's past lame, and straight into aggressively fucking stupid.

J Arcane · November 30, 2006, 05:28:36 PM

Quote from: Sosthenes"Software piracy" seems to be the common term, but it's about as bad as calling computer criminals "hackers". A pirate is a maritime robber. He takes stuff from other people by force. With copyright infringement, (most of the time) force isn't a factor. Comparing someone who swaps CDROM's with the latest games to murderers of the seven seas is utterly ridiculous, a ruse used by some companies and agencies to spread FUD.

After all, if there were that many software pirates, would we have global warming? I rest my case.

See, now I must take issue with you for you language. Please refrain from using the acronym "FUD". It makes you look like one of the retard fanboys you find all over vidgame forums.

Settembrini · November 30, 2006, 05:29:38 PM

QuoteBut you can't go back to Nutkinland.

Sometimes, I think it was the saner place. This is one of those moments...

David R · November 30, 2006, 05:29:48 PM

Quote from: Levi KornelsenThat's past lame, and straight into aggressively fucking stupid.

Apparently, the license to do this kind of shit, is one of the main draws of this place for some folks.

Regards,
David R

J Arcane · November 30, 2006, 05:31:06 PM

Quote from: Levi KornelsenHe threatened to harm - in however small a fashion - someone's actual livelihood.

In order to score points in an internet flame war.

Yes, falsely. Yes, purely to provoke a response. Doesn't matter.

That's past lame, and straight into aggressively fucking stupid.

Ahh, I get you now. Note that I don't really condone his behaviour either, I just admired the craft involved.

Kind of like appreciating a well executed heist. It's still criminal, but its execution is impressive to me.

Your reaction is part of that execution, hence my prodding. For which I apologize, if I have personally offended you, or otherwise been a bother.

Spike · November 30, 2006, 05:32:05 PM

Wow... Piracy raises the hackles around here, don't it? Definitely topica non grata, ya?

Almost makes me want to start up a thread 'bout it.

But TonyLB has already spun one off of here about something else, so I'll let sleeping dog lie...

EDIT:::: My bad, he spun it off another thread on the front page... to be clear

Levi Kornelsen · November 30, 2006, 05:33:55 PM

Quote from: David RApparently, the license to do this kind of shit, is one of the main draws of this place for some folks.

David;

I'm not going to respond to this directly because I don't want to scream like a freak.

Which is about the mood I'm in.

Sosthenes · November 30, 2006, 05:35:04 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneSee, now I must take issue with you for you language. Please refrain from using the acronym "FUD". It makes you look like one of the retard fanboys you find all over vidgame forums.

Video gamers use that now? Jeepers, I'll immediately strike it out of my vocabulary. I probably got a slashdot-flashback. (Hey, I was young and needed the Asia Carrera Uses Linux articles)

JamesV · November 30, 2006, 05:35:44 PM

Quote from: J ArcanePiracy is a popular term amongst RIAA types for the implications of it, but it's not at all the correct term for intellectual property violations.

Dude, I barely had the time to type 'intellectual porperty violations' just now. Just let us folks contract the above into a phrase that has existed well before the present rows over such matters.

Unless you prefer something else. I can do 'bootleg'. Bootleg's a cool word too, and still sounds all piratey.

Man, how classic is it that I then proceeded to mispell 'intellectual property violations'!

Mcrow · November 30, 2006, 05:36:34 PM

Quote from: JamesVDude, I barely had the time to type 'intellectual porperty violations' just now. Just let us folks contract the above into a phrase that has existed well before the present rows over such matters.

Unless you prefer something else. I can do 'bootleg'. Bootleg's a cool word too, and still sounds all piratey.

I started a thread in off-topics about it we would like to duke it there.

J Arcane · November 30, 2006, 05:36:58 PM

Quote from: SosthenesVideo gamers use that now? Jeepers, I'll immediately strike it out of my vocabulary. I probably got a slashdot-flashback. (Hey, I was young and needed the Asia Carrera Uses Linux articles)

My other main board is Evil Avatar, a big vidgame forum, and it gets thrown around a fuck of a lot, especially in "console war" threads and news posts.

It's become one of those terms like "LOL" that makes me want to reach through the screen and strangle the fuck out of the person using it.