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Player consent needed to turn the PC into a mindflayer...

Started by GeekyBugle, September 09, 2023, 02:55:33 AM

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jhkim

#105
October 05, 2023, 06:59:12 PM
I literally got handed a free copy of "The Shattered Obelisk" at a convention last weekend.

I haven't read it through fully yet. However, I got to page 12, and the whole controversy over the polymorph is completely different than described in these threads. It isn't about being transformed to a mindflayer based on PC failure.

The effect in question is a no-saving-throw, GM-imposed weirdness that happens to the PC as a result of the ongoing magical effects. Each PC starts getting weird minor transformations like nightmares, growing a new eye, a taste for raw meat, and various others. The severity grows over time. It's intended as atmosphere-building, giving the players a feel for what's going on without concrete clues.

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I discuss the general issue about transforming PCs in my thread "Fun with Transforming PCs".

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/fun-with-transforming-pcs/

It sounds like what ForgottenF described happening to his Hyperborea characters.

Omega

#106
October 05, 2023, 07:13:32 PM
Quote from: Effete on September 09, 2023, 02:15:19 PM
This just reads like terrible adventure design that tries to excuse how terrible it is by shoving the onus onto GMs to "properly get your player's consent." Is anyone really surprised anymore that this is the quality of content from modern DnD? It's a neat idea, with plenty opportunity for some interesting story-beats. It's just handled with all the grace of a drunk paraplegic trying to swim.

It smacks of storygamer meddling, again. The old "The DM is a horrible monster and we have to shackle it and chain it down!"

Domina

#107
October 14, 2023, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Omega on October 05, 2023, 07:13:32 PM
Quote from: Effete on September 09, 2023, 02:15:19 PM
This just reads like terrible adventure design that tries to excuse how terrible it is by shoving the onus onto GMs to "properly get your player's consent." Is anyone really surprised anymore that this is the quality of content from modern DnD? It's a neat idea, with plenty opportunity for some interesting story-beats. It's just handled with all the grace of a drunk paraplegic trying to swim.

It smacks of storygamer meddling, again. The old "The DM is a horrible monster and we have to shackle it and chain it down!"

Yes, that is objectively true. The DM is a monster, and should be abused at every opportunity.
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