Quote from: Arduin;707646Most RPG books have pages are too big/long for that.  You can't see the whole page without scrolling.  Unless the type is set around 3 point.  So, no, you can't without scrolling.

Yes, obviously.  But I'd rather scroll slowly down as I go down a column, then have to scroll right to left for every line.

Quote from: jcfiala;707652Yes, obviously.  But I'd rather scroll slowly down as I go down a column, then have to scroll right to left for every line.

Hmm, the pages DO fit width wise on my nook.

Quote from: Haffrung;707484Or you live outside the USA. The soaring cost of international shipping has made online purchases of anything under about $70 uneconomical. I'm not spending $18 to ship $30 dice.

This too for me -- and right now, for me anyway (I´m in Brazil), unless I pay even more for expedited tracked shipping (minimum price = $40 at Noble Knight, as an example), the package can disappear for a few MONTHS before it decides to show up again and get delivered. Also, dice packs are guilty of the heinous crime of being "toys", so I get taxed for 60% of the total cost of the package -- merchandise + shipping. That´s enough to rob you of the joy of new funky dice, right there!

Quote from: RF Victor;707708This too for me -- and right now, for me anyway (I´m in Brazil), unless I pay even more for expedited tracked shipping (minimum price = $40 at Noble Knight, as an example), the package can disappear for a few MONTHS before it decides to show up again and get delivered. Also, dice packs are guilty of the heinous crime of being "toys", so I get taxed for 60% of the total cost of the package -- merchandise + shipping. That´s enough to rob you of the joy of new funky dice, right there!

Just have someone here buy them and ship them as a private parcel to you.

Quote from: Haffrung;707594When your book has pages with text spanning a single column and a 9 pt font, you're telling me you either don't understand readability or you don't care.

Hmmm... my copy seems to primarily be double columns, except for the tables and charts. It's quite readable... moreso than some of the high end rulebooks I've seen that seem meant to sit on a coffee table and look pretty.

If I were to buy DCC it would be as a gift to myself as a piece of art. I don't necessarily want to run it, but just flipping thru the pages jump starts my imagination in a way few gamebooks ever have. Perhaps only WHFRP 1e is comparable. Is the art the slickest or most technically proficient? Not at all. One could even call it crude. But it's evocative, which for me is a far more valuable commodity.

It's the reason I prefer Kirby comics to painted works by Alex Ross.

Quote from: Haffrung;707484Or you live outside the USA. The soaring cost of international shipping has made online purchases of anything under about $70 uneconomical. I'm not spending $18 to ship $30 dice.

Shit, and you're practically next door to them in Canada. Look up the shipping charges to South America.

I admit it, I do have an instinctual dislike of DCC.  I dislike the stupid extra dice.  I dislike grinding through zero level characters.  I dislike the magic system and all the damn charts.  I dislike the 70's motif in the art.  Afro's and bell bottoms?  I hated that shit then and I still do.  I certainly don't feel nostalgic for it.  Most of all though, I dislike the bullshit worship of appendix N while they somehow managed to still stick the cleric class into and make every adventure about going into a dungeon.  It's just D&D but it's all sooo much better because everything's weird and all the monsters are unique snowflakes.  Bullshit.

And yes, I have played it.  Several times more than I wanted to...

Quote from: CRKrueger;707384Yeah in this world, the dice can be had online with two clicks and appear magically at your door in two days.  Depending on manufacturer, some qualify for Amazon Prime shipping for Christ's sake.  Not exactly hard to get unless you live in the 80's.

Link.

Quote from: RPGPundit;707212Or are you maybe one of those people who has an instinctual dislike of DCC, not having played it but suspecting you wouldn't like it?

Having just read through some of a friend's copy, put me under instinctual dislike and knowing I wouldn't enjoy it.  

Races as class, hard leaning towards murderhobo play and away from heroics, no good and evil even when law and chaos get shoehorned into those roles anyway, no half-orcs even when they take the time to have an unfunny joke about half-orcs, no half-orc paladins either, and mostly unpleasant art.  I can see how it would be appealing to some gamers, but it absolutely isn't for me.

(I think the one piece of art I liked that I recall without the book in front of me was the mage on the back cover, behind the 70's rock band guy.  I wish character designs like that were just a bit more common.  The mage, that is.  Not Discoviking.)

Quote from: ggroy;707215Is the non-standard dice an issue in practice?

Yes, its an issue for some.

Quote from: Simlasa;707757Hmmm... my copy seems to primarily be double columns, except for the tables and charts. It's quite readable... moreso than some of the high end rulebooks I've seen that seem meant to sit on a coffee table and look pretty.

I recall the entire spell section (about a third of the book) being single column. I could be wrong.

Regardless, the layout issues are about usability, not looking pretty. They're entirely different things.

Quote from: Haffrung;707932I recall the entire spell section (about a third of the book) being single column. I could be wrong.

Regardless, the layout issues are about usability, not looking pretty. They're entirely different things.

The spells are single column because they are tables to be rolled on.

For me, it just falls under the category of "yet-another-D&D-I-don't-need-because-I-already-have-D&D".  

I'd play it in a heartbeat, though, and I've bought at least one of their modules (The People of the Pit).

I had thought of picking this up but changed my mind once I had the choice between a hardcopy of DCC and LotFP.  Even though it had the look of AD&D, it seemed like it would be a hard sell to convince my friends to play it instead of AD&D.  The dice issue would be the icing to why they wouldn't play.  It wasn't different but familiar, it was familiar but different.