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Do your PCs walk around town in armor?

Started by RPGPundit, July 13, 2015, 02:29:26 AM

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Omega

Quote from: RPGPundit;848106In Albion, it's not just armor.  I've put in a lot of information about Sumptuary laws, and my players were surprised when they discovered they wouldn't just get in trouble for wearing chain mail in a town, they could get in trouble for wearing the wrong clothes too!

Wearing the colour purple was against the law in a specific kingdom in one of the campaigns I ran. That was a colour reserved for royalty.

In BX Karameikos wearing boots or cloaks of elvenkind in the Alfheim kingdom was exponentially likely to get you stopped and questioned if you were not an elf.

What about weird concealable/wearable weapons like the Urumi? It looks like a metal belt pretty much till you unwind it.

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Omega;848141Wearing the colour purple was against the law in a specific kingdom in one of the campaigns I ran. That was a colour reserved for royalty.

In the real world, you couldn't wear a certain shade of Yellow because it was the Imperial colours and to do so would mean treason and death.
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James Gillen

Quote from: RPGPundit;848106In Albion, it's not just armor.  I've put in a lot of information about Sumptuary laws, and my players were surprised when they discovered they wouldn't just get in trouble for wearing chain mail in a town, they could get in trouble for wearing the wrong clothes too!

It's hard out here for a pimp.

JG
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Ravenswing

Quote from: Christopher Brady;848142In the real world, you couldn't wear a certain shade of Yellow because it was the Imperial colours and to do so would mean treason and death.
Heck, in the real world, sumptuary laws included a dizzying array of nonsense: the maximum number of colors you were allowed to wear, the fabrics you were allowed to wear, how long a tippet or the points on your shoes could be, the number and material of decorative buttons.

All basically boiling down to "It pisses us old-line aristocracy off that you nouveau riche merchants can afford flashier clothing than we can, so we need to put a stop to that."
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All of the Sumptuary Laws in dark albion are based in real medieval laws about what your social class allowed you to wear (or forbade you from wearing).
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Quote from: Ravenswing;848528Heck, in the real world, sumptuary laws included a dizzying array of nonsense: the maximum number of colors you were allowed to wear, the fabrics you were allowed to wear, how long a tippet or the points on your shoes could be, the number and material of decorative buttons.

All basically boiling down to "It pisses us old-line aristocracy off that you nouveau riche merchants can afford flashier clothing than we can, so we need to put a stop to that."

Yeap.  Never underestimate Humanity's drive for pettiness and oneupsmanship.
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Quote from: Ravenswing;848528Heck, in the real world, sumptuary laws included a dizzying array of nonsense: the maximum number of colors you were allowed to wear, the fabrics you were allowed to wear, how long a tippet or the points on your shoes could be, the number and material of decorative buttons.

All basically boiling down to "It pisses us old-line aristocracy off that you nouveau riche merchants can afford flashier clothing than we can, so we need to put a stop to that."

I hadn't thought of it before, but I could adapt this to the nobility in Traveller and have a field day with it.
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It's spelled "wine", dude. Or at least that's what I'd have with cheese, you can keep the "whine" version;).

Quote from: jeff37923;848984I hadn't thought of it before, but I could adapt this to the nobility in Traveller and have a field day with it.
You mean you're not doing it yet:D?
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jeff37923

Quote from: AsenRG;849017You mean you're not doing it yet:D?

I hadn't thought of it, honestly. I already had some friction between the honor nobility and the hereditary nobility, but I hadn't considered sumptuary laws.
"Meh."

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Sumptuary laws became necessary as soon as there were people Not Covered In Shit who weren't aristocrats.
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Ravenswing

Quote from: jeff37923;848984I hadn't thought of it before, but I could adapt this to the nobility in Traveller and have a field day with it.
I don't doubt it.  All you need is to establish what passes for baroque fashion/conspicuous consumption, and there you go.
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James Gillen

Quote from: RPGPundit;849457Sumptuary laws became necessary as soon as there were people Not Covered In Shit who weren't aristocrats.

Essentially.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;849457Sumptuary laws became necessary as soon as there were people Not Covered In Shit who weren't aristocrats.

" 'Oos 'e?"

"I dunno, 'e must be a king."

" 'Ow can you tell?"

" 'E 'asn't got shi' all over 'im."
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Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;849876" 'Oos 'e?"

"I dunno, 'e must be a king."

" 'Ow can you tell?"

" 'E 'asn't got shi' all over 'im."

Yes, that was the reference.
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