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Diversity & Dragons throws Ginny Di under the bus, rightfully so

Started by honeydipperdavid, August 22, 2023, 01:35:21 PM

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Mistwell

Quote from: Theory of Games on August 24, 2023, 01:43:18 PM
Maybe it's a new concept to a lot of you, but when a small fry like Diversity & Dragons goes after a big fish like Ginny d, the small fry's just clout-chasing hoping the bigger channel will respond. It's like TBE going after Pundit: he's praying Pundit responds so people will visit his shit channel.

Never give the little people a response. Ignoring them drives 'em crazy. Just let that small fry dwindle and vanish. Same with theBrOSR. Ignore it and let it die - like watching a worm squirm in the sunlight.

Diversity & Dragons missed on Inappropriate Characters so he's trying to make up distance by attacking a channel with 250 TIMES the subs. The SJWs will eat him alive .... get ready.

I disagree in that I think it's OK for a small guy to go after a bigger fish - just DO IT WELL. Put the work into it, and make it show that you put work into it. Do not hit pause a thousand times while filming because you can't speak for more than 10 seconds without screwing up. Don't bash crappy graphics and out of sync music to it. Don't phone it in by screen shotting a twitter search and call that research. Don't say uh and um and dither on camera. Don't speak as if you're preaching to the choir. If your intent is to be seen by a whole lot of people who disagree with you - give it your best effort. Represent yourself professionally.

He didn't do any of that. He half-assed the whole thing and that's worth criticizing.

THE_Leopold

Miswell did you watch the video? He came with reciepts, dozens of screen caps through twitter and youtube.  For a guy that is making youtube videos because he wants to, not cause he has to, it was informative and eductational.

NKL4Lyfe

jeff37923

I watched a bit of her crap when she was advocating boycotting WotC over the OGL being pulled.  I stopped watching her when she came out in favor of WotC after she got bribed with DnD 5 merch. Once again showing that enough money or favor can win over personal integrity.
"Meh."

King Tyranno

Ginny was nice and helpful to my partner in an internet interaction. Which I am grateful for. But this kind of awful attitude she has is bought about by her own mental illness. Which is expressed by a need to control social situations so unexpected moments do not happen. This is why all these consent mechanisms exist. It mitigates talking to another person which might lead to more unexpected moments. And instead of seeking professional mental help for a clear phobia of social encounters, these people are coddled and told they're right to feel this way. I've dealt with kids who feel this way as a GM and it always comes from being terminally online and not having enough real world interaction. You can teach them that the people at the table aren't looking to catch them out, it's okay to ask questions and talk about their problems with the game with the GM. Eventually they learn. Become more relaxed and have fun. In fact I'm told my sessions are the only times they feel don't feel anxious.

I can't help every single woke person though. So Ginny needs to stop playing Pen and Paper RPGs, get off the internet, and go find a therapist. She won't do any of this though because she prioritizes the short term hit of dopamine from social media over her own mental wellbeing and doesn't have anyone personally telling her what she's doing wrong. And she never will because she's surrounded by people just like her. 

GhostNinja

I have been thinking about it while I prepare for my D&D 5e game tonight regarding the situation regarding safety tools.

I think Ginny (Like a couple people on rpg.net) want so badly for safety tools to become a thing and for the most part they are being ignored.  So they try and try to keep pushing them to try to make safety tools relevant.

The problem is no one needs safety tools, no one cares about safety tools and if you need safety tools to play an rpg than more likely than not you are too fragile and probably should be doing something else.
Ghostninja

Corolinth

That's because the idea that words cause harm is in vogue among the left. That was the entire basis for censorship on the internet - suppressing inconvenient facts that don't care about your feelings and undermine The Message. Safety tools are a logical extension of that.

A certain subset of the population needs to have safety tools in game, because if you don't have safety tools, that means you are conceding the point that speech does not actually cause harm, and you have to go debate Ben Shapiro.

I don't want to veer off into a political discussion, but they're linked. The people who promote safety tools are the "everything is political" people. Safety tools are a manifestation of politics in tabletop gaming.

FingerRod

Safety tools are lame. But they serve as a good canary in the coal mine.

Nameless Mist

Quote from: FingerRod on August 25, 2023, 07:40:57 PM
Safety tools are lame. But they serve as a good canary in the coal mine.

Agreed.  If you're starting a new group, and someone wants to join that expresses an interest in safety tools, keep them the hell out of the group.

Eirikrautha

Quote from: Corolinth on August 25, 2023, 06:53:16 PM
That's because the idea that words cause harm is in vogue among the left. That was the entire basis for censorship on the internet - suppressing inconvenient facts that don't care about your feelings and undermine The Message. Safety tools are a logical extension of that.

A certain subset of the population needs to have safety tools in game, because if you don't have safety tools, that means you are conceding the point that speech does not actually cause harm, and you have to go debate Ben Shapiro.

I don't want to veer off into a political discussion, but they're linked. The people who promote safety tools are the "everything is political" people. Safety tools are a manifestation of politics in tabletop gaming.

QFT

Thank God I grew up in a time where we were taught that "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me."  While I might have endured some more verbal abuse than today's generation, at least I didn't turn out to be a mewling wussy like so many of these Millennials seem to be...
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Mistwell

Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 25, 2023, 10:45:23 AM
Miswell did you watch the video? He came with reciepts, dozens of screen caps through twitter and youtube.  For a guy that is making youtube videos because he wants to, not cause he has to, it was informative and eductational.

I watched almost all of it. He literally is jut typing into Twitter her name and a keyword and then screenshotting the results. That's it. That's all he is doing.

Eirikrautha

Quote from: Mistwell on August 25, 2023, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 25, 2023, 10:45:23 AM
Miswell did you watch the video? He came with reciepts, dozens of screen caps through twitter and youtube.  For a guy that is making youtube videos because he wants to, not cause he has to, it was informative and eductational.

I watched almost all of it. He literally is jut typing into Twitter her name and a keyword and then screenshotting the results. That's it. That's all he is doing.

So, basically, she's such a moron that she's not even trying to hide her venom?  Glad he could demonstrate that for us...
"Testosterone levels vary widely among women, just like other secondary sex characteristics like breast size or body hair. If you eliminate anyone with elevated testosterone, it's like eliminating athletes because their boobs aren't big enough or because they're too hairy." -- jhkim

Exploderwizard

Quote from: Mistwell on August 25, 2023, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 25, 2023, 10:45:23 AM
Miswell did you watch the video? He came with reciepts, dozens of screen caps through twitter and youtube.  For a guy that is making youtube videos because he wants to, not cause he has to, it was informative and eductational.

I watched almost all of it. He literally is jut typing into Twitter her name and a keyword and then screenshotting the results. That's it. That's all he is doing.

What he is doing isn't important. It is the Twitter results generated that are.
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Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

GhostNinja

Quote from: Corolinth on August 25, 2023, 06:53:16 PM
That's because the idea that words cause harm is in vogue among the left. That was the entire basis for censorship on the internet - suppressing inconvenient facts that don't care about your feelings and undermine The Message. Safety tools are a logical extension of that.

I think you paint the left with a broad brush.   It' not the entire left, it's a small radical corner of the left.  From what I can tell most of the left believe in freedom of speech and don't agree with censorship.

There are radical groups on both side of the equation. 
Ghostninja

THE_Leopold

Quote from: Mistwell on August 25, 2023, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on August 25, 2023, 10:45:23 AM
Miswell did you watch the video? He came with reciepts, dozens of screen caps through twitter and youtube.  For a guy that is making youtube videos because he wants to, not cause he has to, it was informative and eductational.

I watched almost all of it. He literally is jut typing into Twitter her name and a keyword and then screenshotting the results. That's it. That's all he is doing.

It sounds like he did some research, dug a bit into the topic, found what he was looking for, spent time creating a video then published it for all of us to see. He brought the reciepts and they match the motive and message.

What more do you want for someone who is doing this for shits and giggles Ayan Paladin level of analysis? Ain't nobody got time for that.
NKL4Lyfe

Nameless Mist

Quote from: GhostNinja on August 26, 2023, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: Corolinth on August 25, 2023, 06:53:16 PM
That's because the idea that words cause harm is in vogue among the left. That was the entire basis for censorship on the internet - suppressing inconvenient facts that don't care about your feelings and undermine The Message. Safety tools are a logical extension of that.

I think you paint the left with a broad brush.   It' not the entire left, it's a small radical corner of the left.  From what I can tell most of the left believe in freedom of speech and don't agree with censorship.

There are radical groups on both side of the equation.

I used to believe that, but a lot of the left and many supposed moderates seem to go along with whatever the SJWs decide is offensive.  One of the biggest reasons for this is how the corporate world has fully embraced what used to be seen as radicalism.  If you express any opinion that is even mildly skeptical of the LGBT agenda, for example, you could lose your job in many cases.  I work for a company like this, which is why I have to keep mum about anything political there and avoid some of their indoctrination events.  The mentality of college campuses is clearly not free speech nowadays, and that has spread into mainstream society and media.