Quote from: RPGPunditThe difference is that over there, you started getting people joining the site just for the off-topic discussion. It stopped being about gamers.

That is quite a valid point.  I hadn't considered that.  I do recall watching various people joining the forum, not because they loved the games and wanted to expand their "monkeysphere."  Rather, they joined to be cheerleaders or supporters for someone who was an existing member.

It was further worsened when Tangency was split up into different "specialty" forums.  That really made it clear that there were "gamers," "music/media" lovers, "miniatures lovers," and whatever.  But there was always "Tangency."  That festering pit of degenerates who sucked up to the mods and created clique after clique in a hugh popularity contest that sucked the very life out of the site.

What's really sad is to realize that Tangency became the Junior High School and High School experiences that the bulk of the "in clique" of Tangency never got to experience because they were too geeky to be admitted when they were in those immature levels of education.

And they treated those outisde their cliques with the same disdain, indifference and bald-faced hatred as they received, magnified by their own perceptions of import and reinforced by the moderators (who were often in collusion with or "members" of the same cliques).

Quote from: RPGPunditThe difference is that over there, you started getting people joining the site just for the off-topic discussion. It stopped being about gamers.

Yeah.  I want this place to be open and welcoming for gamers who want to discuss our hobby and other stuff.  Non-gamers aren't scorned, but their presence is unwelcome in this particular internet space.

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THAT'S it!  Honesty.  Oh shit, the memories.  Thanks dude, you rock!

-Andy

I'm pleased to see that the mere mention of her name can still make a person's day.

!i!