Hi,

Just want to thank the guys at DexCon 10, the Indie Explosion!  for a great time, the encouragement and answers to my questions.  

Some of the pictures came out good enough to post so I posted them to the Literary Role Playing Game Society of Westchester site:

http://games.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/LRPGSW/spshow/2b1b?b=1&m=s

Feel free to Save As... any photos you want.  Some of them are definitely keepers.  Also if you know the people in the pictures who may not see this, maybe you could let them know its up there.  

Thanks again,
 Mark

So, as a new indie cultist, whats your take on the whole brain damage thing?

Dude, I can't see the pictures without logging in to whatever little email group you've got going there.  Makes a world of sense if you're posting to an email group, but not so great if you're posting to a public forum.

Quote from: TonyLBDude, I can't see the pictures without logging in to whatever little email group you've got going there.  Makes a world of sense if you're posting to an email group, but not so great if you're posting to a public forum.

Oh darn.  Yeah, it's a members only thing I guess.  That's too bad.  There's no way to actually change the settings to allow public viewing of images on Yahoo Groups.  Darn that Yahoo.  Basturds.  

Anyway, apologies then.  I'll have to look around for another way to share them.  Thanks for the heads up.

- Mark

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This has been a test of the forgie PR machine! Tony is on the job!

Wow. Get lost, you guys.
For that shit, there´s always "story"-games.

Quote from: Abyssal MawSo, as a new indie cultist, whats your take on the whole brain damage thing?

... Well, as for the brain damage thing... I'm not sure if that's a reference to something specific or a general question about my take on the Indie Scene... so I'll just ramble a bit... as I see it, and to answer a question that came up in one of the DexCon 10 panel discussions, "What makes the Indie Game crowd different than the Traditionalist (and much larger) D&D crowd?", is this:

The Indie crowd has an enormous amount of live and crackling creative energy, talent and drive.  They also have the wherewithal to take their concepts to market (which in and of itself can be a LOT of work), and have the guts to take risks and ask the hard questions on game design.  It's a wild and woolly bunch, as one would expect, but the collaborative excitement is palpable, and in my case contagious.  I came away feeling that this is a great bunch of guys who are really bright and would be a heck of a lot of fun to collaborate with.   And yes, brain damage is just part of the process.  Case in point,  Luke "the cannon" Crane and the gang came at me pretty hard on my game during the Game Design Panel, and really blasted me with some excellent and difficult questions.  I felt like a cat on a hot tin roof.  But I think it really helped me to think about and clarify my goals, and the purpose of my game... at least into words that I could write down and throw into my next set of docs and keep in mind as I move forward.  So overall I say, "Give brain damage a chance".


- Mark

Quote from: Abyssal MawThis has been a test of the forgie PR machine! Tony is on the job!

Dude, whatever.  You can wage your fictional war around, on top of and under me, for all I care.  I just wanted to see the pictures.

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This has been a test of the forgie PR machine! Tony is on the job!

AM - I swear, one of these days you are going to turn me into a Forge apologist purely by reaction to posts like these - and I don't even like the games! :O

It's a good thing I generally like your other posts!

-clash

Quote from: VBWyrde... Well, as for the brain damage thing... I'm not sure if that's a reference to something specific or a general question about my take on the Indie Scene... so I'll just ramble a bit... as I see it, and to answer a question that came up in one of the DexCon 10 panel discussions, "What makes the Indie Game crowd different than the Traditionalist (and much larger) D&D crowd?", is this:

The Indie crowd has an enormous amount of live and crackling creative energy, talent and drive.  They also have the wherewithal to take their concepts to market (which in and of itself can be a LOT of work), and have the guts to take risks and ask the hard questions on game design.  It's a wild and woolly bunch, as one would expect, but the collaborative excitement is palpable, and in my case contagious.  I came away feeling that this is a great bunch of guys who are really bright and would be a heck of a lot of fun to collaborate with.   And yes, brain damage is just part of the process.  Case in point,  Luke "the cannon" Crane and the gang came at me pretty hard on my game during the Game Design Panel, and really blasted me with some excellent and difficult questions.  I felt like a cat on a hot tin roof.  But I think it really helped me to think about and clarify my goals, and the purpose of my game... at least into words that I could write down and throw into my next set of docs and keep in mind as I move forward.  So overall I say, "Give brain damage a chance".


- Mark

If the indie crowd had all that creative crackling energy they probably wouldn't have been continuously rewriting the same three awful "games" since 1996. In any case, they certainly don't have more of it than anyone else. Possibly a lot less. And yeah, we get that they want to sell stuff. They promote constantly.  

I mean, your'e obviously new, and you don't even know what I'm referring to when I say "brain damage", so I want to first off welcome you to the site. But what the fuck? Why promote those fuckers here? Were you encouraged to do this?

Quote from: flyingmiceAM - I swear, one of these days you are going to turn me into a Forge apologist purely by reaction to posts like these - and I don't even like the games! :O

It's a good thing I generally like your other posts!

-clash

I'm a troublemaker! Thats why. :hehe:

Quote from: VBWyrdeI'll have to look around for another way to share them.

Hosting the pictures at Photobucket or ImageShack or some such service would be the obvious solution. But wouldn't this thread more properly belong in the Off-Topic forum?

Wow, at least they are honest about their propaganda.

But AM!: They are using US. By turning this into a flamewar, they generate publicity.

Let´s drop out of it, they are using us, to play their game. Put them on ignore.

I´m out, fuck you viral marketers!:forge:

I'd also like to see the pictures!

Quote from: Abyssal MawIf the indie crowd had all that creative crackling energy they probably wouldn't have been continuously rewriting the same three awful "games" since 1996. In any case, they certainly don't have more of it than anyone else. Possibly a lot less. And yeah, we get that they want to sell stuff. They promote constantly.  

I mean, your'e obviously new, and you don't even know what I'm referring to when I say "brain damage", so I want to first off welcome you to the site. But what the fuck? Why promote those fuckers here? Were you encouraged to do this?

Thanks for the welcome.  I didn't realise when I walked in that there's a live fire fight going on.  Sorry.  No, no one encouraged me to promote anyone.  I was just giving my honest impression of my experience at DexCon with the Indie crowd, who seemed creative, energized and helpful to me.  Nuff said on that, obviously.

Mind cluing me in as to what this fight is about, and what factions are contending for what?   That might help me get oriented around here.  Yah, I'm new.   Thanks.

- Mark