Quote from: Slambo;1120178Its popularity basically comes from people saying "you thought madoka was fucked up look at Gen Urobuchi's earlier work"

Wait did Urobutcher work on Hentai games before his other crap? Makes sense. The guys a hack. So much of his stuff is skin deep. Put a bit of thought into it and it falls apart. But it apeals to edgelords that don't like to think to deeply about anything.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1120181Wait did Urobutcher work on Hentai games before his other crap? Makes sense. The guys a hack. So much of his stuff is skin deep. Put a bit of thought into it and it falls apart. But it apeals to edgelords that don't like to think to deeply about anything.

Yes, and these are my exacr thoughts on Gen Urobuchi.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1120181Wait did Urobutcher work on Hentai games before his other crap? Makes sense. The guys a hack. So much of his stuff is skin deep. Put a bit of thought into it and it falls apart. But it apeals to edgelords that don't like to think to deeply about anything.

Greetings!

What is an "Edgelord" my friend?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1120175A monster/human coupling has been a staple of myth and fairytale since forever.

Yes, but in myth and fairytale when this happens, almost always either the monster is ultimately redeemed from its monsterdom (Beauty and the Beast), or the human who couples willingly with it meets a terrible fate (selkie or swanmay legends) or is transformed into a being like the monster (vampire or faerie bride legends). The idea that both human and monster can stay as they are and nonetheless still be happy and contented together -- and not just happy and contented, but more happy and contented than either could be with their own kind -- is a uniquely modern twist, and one that (I think) comes not from SF&F literature but, as pointed out by L. Jagi Lamplighter, modern romance literature.

The key to a successful romance is that there have to be profound obstacles preventing the lovers from being together, or there's no struggle in their union and no drama to their story.  In the past you could set up all kinds of barriers -- class, religion, race, nationality, etc. -- which simply don't apply today, not without going to a great deal of work to establish a fairly specific and unusual context. Thus, one reason the paranormal romance has become so popular is that it replaces these outdated barriers with the existential barrier of one's very species: vampire/werewolf, vampire/human, half-angel/half-devil, whatever. But because the notion of changing's one's essential nature for the sake of a relationship is considered a politically problematic message today, these romances almost always find some way to imply a permanent happy ending without having to make such a change. The Shape of Water is a direct descendant of those narrative tropes.

Personally I think of The Shape of Water as an unofficial prequel to Pacific Rim; I think the River-Man comes from the same dimension as the Kaiju-builders, and it was from Elena or her descendants that the Builders learned of the existence of our dimension. So I look at it as a tragedy that nobody involved (except, ironically, Strickland himself) realized was a tragedy until far, far too late.

Quote from: SHARK;1120194Greetings!

What is an "Edgelord" my friend?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

According to Dictionary.com
An  edgelord is someone on an internet forum who deliberately talks about controversial, offensive, taboo, or nihilistic subjects in order to shock other users in an effort to appear cool, or edgy.

This is also worth a look:
https://youtu.be/XaZem6lMEqw

Quote from: Anselyn;1120199According to Dictionary.com
An  edgelord is someone on an internet forum who deliberately talks about controversial, offensive, taboo, or nihilistic subjects in order to shock other users in an effort to appear cool, or edgy.

This is also worth a look:
https://youtu.be/XaZem6lMEqw

I thought they were just trying to appear more pathetic than the allready normal trolls are pathetic?

What's funny is how neither of the broadly-defined "sides" in this conversation (I mean this generally, not just here at this forum) are comfortable mentioning the most salient and relevant example of colonialism, so salient and relevant that it's still going on today: Palestine and Israel. I seriously doubt (sight unseen, I admit) that the product under discussion is any exception. Funny how SJWs shut their fat yaps on this specific subset of a topic they ostensibly loooooove to talk about...

P.S., I have managed to glean that "TBP" refers to rpg.net, but what exactly does it abbreviate?

When I picture an "edgelord," I imagine an overweight high school student dressed in a black trenchcoat and fedora adorned with "PROUD ATHEIST" and "FUCK GOD" pins, brandishing a katana in one hand and an anime body pillow in the other.

Quote from: Morlock;1120203P.S., I have managed to glean that "TBP" refers to rpg.net, but what exactly does it abbreviate?

"The Big Purple."

Quote from: Antiquation!;1120206When I picture an "edgelord," I imagine an overweight high school student dressed in a black trenchcoat and fedora adorned with "PROUD ATHEIST" and "FUCK GOD" pins, brandishing a katana in one hand and an anime body pillow in the other.

"The Big Purple."

You ninja-ed me. Saw a blog post talking about The Big Purple and Pungency and it clicked. Thanks though.

Quote from: Antiquation!;1120206When I picture an "edgelord," I imagine an overweight high school student dressed in a black trenchcoat and fedora adorned with "PROUD ATHEIST" and "FUCK GOD" pins, brandishing a katana in one hand and an anime body pillow in the other.

This sounds like a scream of a Halloween costume!

Quote from: SHARK;1120194Greetings!

What is an "Edgelord" my friend?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

1990s and 2000s Street Magicians? :confused: Humorless goths? :confused: Weaboos who bought the otaku hype?

Quote from: Morlock;1120209You ninja-ed me. Saw a blog post talking about The Big Purple and Pungency and it clicked. Thanks though.

No problem! Took me a hot minute to figure it out when I first got here as well. :cool:

Quote from: Opaopajr;1120210This sounds like a scream of a Halloween costume!

Your comment had me briefly consider dressing up like that for the upcoming Emerald City Comic Con, but then I realized that, given the crowd, people would probably not assume I were in costume...

Quote from: Reckall;1119922Don't forget the whole Star Wars fiasco. "The Force is Female" and stuff.

No wonder it so readily obeys my commands.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1120141You want to know what decolonization looks like?

My favorite image is a brace of natives taking down power and phone lines so they can sell the copper as scrap. Second place is dismantling power transformers to use the (toxic) oil for frying food at roadside stands. Actually, that might be first place.

Seriously, though: decolonization is usually synonymous with words like decay, entropy, etc.

Quote from: goblinslayer;1120143the Goblin Slayer rpg

Please, do go on.

Quote from: JeremyR;1120152On the flip side, he blamed (lack of) money for the reason for the divorce and never actually finalized it...

He never signed the paperwork, but he told her that it was done and she went to California and got remarried.

The man was a xenophobic bigot by the standards of his day, not merely ours, and his contemporaries often tried to call him out on it.

I will always enjoy much of his work and the work that was inspired by it, but the way he was a product of his time was the sorry state of psychology and psychiatry.  He was the racist uncle of his literary family.

I am an unapologetic Lovecraft fan. Zero apologies. Go tentacle fuck yourself to death if you need an apology.

That said, it's a free country. If you draw the line at reading the work of racist authors, that's your right. Nobody needs to be a Lovecraft fan, especially if you're one of the dirty mongrel people like ME that HPL despised.

BUT...here's the corollary. If you're waving the "HPL = bad" flag, you don't get to profit from his work. There are plenty of horror authors in the past 100 years who were either not racist or whose racism was never public. If "fighting racism" is your daily wank, go find another author's work to plunder...or better yet, go lease their IP.  

Fuck Evil Hat. Hypocritical garbage.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee;1120061I am of the opinion that SJW-ism is gonna get much hotter then what people think. The stakes are too large and the plans too far reaching to just die off. SJW brainwashing is some of the most advanced I have ever seen or heard about. Thats not gonna wash off with some flopped films and low sales.

Unfortunately, I agree with you.

Quote from: SHARK;1120194What is an "Edgelord" my friend?

The best prestige class from 3e.