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Decolonization in RPGs!

Started by Alderaan Crumbs, January 23, 2020, 03:01:08 PM

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TNMalt

I've scanned the web and their site. Post a link or otherwise this book is vaporware.

jhkim

Quote from: TNMalt;1119908I've scanned the web and their site. Post a link or otherwise this book is vaporware.

Well, to be fair, the OP did specify that they got it in an email. There's no claim that it's public yet. On the other hand, that does mean there is no corroboration.

The subject seems pretty broad for a sourcebook - I don't see how it would be of practical use in a campaign, even if the antagonists are colonizers. How much in common would, say, 1900-era Japan be with, say, colonizing orcs in Middle Earth?

Armchair Gamer

#32
Quote from: TNMalt;1119908I've scanned the web and their site. Post a link or otherwise this book is vaporware.

  If it's a hoax, it's a plausible one--the director is doing these kinds of things in the industry, and Evil Hat has already done an 'Accessibility Toolkit.' On the other hand, you'd think it would be popping up to much acclaim on TBP. :)

  I wonder … will it contain the TBP Oath of Fealty?

"Death to light, to law, to love!
Cursed be moon and stars above!
May darkness everlasting old
that waits outside in surges cold
drown Manwë, Varda, and the sun!
May all in hatred be begun,
and all in evil ended be
in the moaning of the endless Sea!"

  (With apologies to J.R.R. Tolkien.) :D

Alderaan Crumbs

Quote from: TNMalt;1119908I've scanned the web and their site. Post a link or otherwise this book is vaporware.

It's as real as the part of the e-mail they sent. I'm not one to lie. If it never gets created, blame them.
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nope

#34
Quote from: GameDaddy;1119878I think they should try a year with the commies to see how they would like that.
LOL, indeed!

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1119899Evil Hat is still a thing?
Apparently still white knuckling it financially speaking. A few of their most recent product releases they couldn't even afford to add art to until long past release.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1119910If it's a hoax, it's a plausible one--the director is doing these kinds of things in the industry, and Evil Hat has already done an 'Accessibility Toolkit.'
Yes, the Accessibility Toolkit is why I find this project's existence totally believable. In addition to a bunch of stuff in the Horror toolkit, things like the myriad dangers of "othering" and why making monsters bad is bad, how horror has traditionally been used to "explore and validate/endorse the consequences of systemic bigotry," how horror turns minorities and women into targets to exploit, how to properly game "safely" because "someone might use your horror game to legitimize or conceal deliberate abuse of another player," endless talk of 'player consent and safety' (in addition to usual suspects such as X-Cards, 'Veils' and 'Script Changes') etc.

Reckall

Quote from: Orphan81;1119842I really believe we reached peak Social Justice back in 2019, and the tide turned against it. Just look at the success of the Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr Stand Up Specials, the complete bombing of Charlie's Angels and Terminator Dark Fate. Throw in Ricky Gervais's speech.. and Social Justice in mainstream media... is beginning to die. It's not dead yet, but you can see that it's on it's way out. The Normies have gotten sick of it, and the capitalist driven companies are finally taking notice.

Don't forget the whole Star Wars fiasco. "The Force is Female" and stuff. Hard result: a mess of a new trilogy, and toys sales and park visits collapsing. Right now they are wondering if they will be able to recover the brand at all.
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VisionStorm

Quote from: Antiquation!;1119914Yes, the Accessibility Toolkit is why I find this project's existence totally believable. In addition to a bunch of stuff in the Horror toolkit, things like the myriad dangers of "othering" and why making monsters bad is bad, how horror has traditionally been used to "explore and validate/endorse the consequences of systemic bigotry," how horror turns minorities and women into targets to exploit, how to properly game "safely" because "someone might use your horror game to legitimize or conceal deliberate abuse of another player," endless talk of 'player consent and safety' (in addition to usual suspects such as X-Cards, 'Veils' and 'Script Changes') etc.

The word "safety" is an immediate red flag. It has become weaponized as a "dog whistle" (another term that's been weaponized) that is used to signal the presence of unapproved language or ideas, and mark them as "dangerous" or heretical. "Safety" no longer means safe, it means compliance with the moral authority of our self-appointed censors.

Weru

Quote from: GameDaddy;1119878I think they should try a year with the commies to see how they would like that.

You mean they need a holiday in Cambodia?


QuoteNow you can go where the people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need, my son...
What you need, my son...

Is a holiday in Cambodia

nope

Quote from: VisionStorm;1119943The word "safety" is an immediate red flag. It has become weaponized as a "dog whistle" (another term that's been weaponized) that is used to signal the presence of unapproved language or ideas, and mark them as "dangerous" or heretical. "Safety" no longer means safe, it means compliance with the moral authority of our self-appointed censors.

Spot on. Abuse and manipulation of language is one vital and insidious mechanism in the larger tactic of de facto control through targeted exclusion and suppression of conflicting ideologies that's so popular among zealots lately.

GameDaddy

Quote from: Weru;1119945You mean they need a holiday in Cambodia?

Mrrr? Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing, Moscow, St. Peterburg, Macao, Chad, Sudan, Italy, Turkey. Something like that. I would love to see them trying out their social justice in true socialist, or communist societies, where the free speech we have here in the West, is absolutely not tolerated. That would be entertaining to observe them in such a place for an extended amount of time.
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BronzeDragon

Quote from: GameDaddy;1119951...for an extended amount of time.

Extended?

Not bloody likely... :D
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SHARK

Quote from: GameDaddy;1119951Mrrr? Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing, Moscow, St. Peterburg, Macao, Chad, Sudan, Italy, Turkey. Something like that. I would love to see them trying out their social justice in true socialist, or communist societies, where the free speech we have here in the West, is absolutely not tolerated. That would be entertaining to observe them in such a place for an extended amount of time.

Greetings!

Indeed. In places like Communist China, if you run your mouth there too much, in ways the government doesn't approve of--such "activists" simply disappear, often also with their entire families. Vans with men dressed in dark clothes and masks arrive, throw your ass in the van, and you just fucking disappear, and are never heard from or seen again.

There are no lawyers to help you. No "action groups" or "rights groups" that will say a fucking thing about you, or investigate a damned thing. You are fucked. You get tortured, and then chopped up and mixed in with the industrial pig feed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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Jaeger

Quote from: Haffrung;1119857The tide of woke crusading could very well recede in mainstream pop culture. However, I expect it to persist - even intensify - in sub-cultures dominated by the demographic who embrace woke dogma as their core moral identity. That demographic includes many creative types in tabletop gaming.

While we may very well have seen peak tolerance for SJW wokeness, I don't believe for one millisecond that they will go quietly into the night.

The more "get woke - go broke" continues, the more ferocious they will get in advancing their agenda.

SJW's always double down.

Always.
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Franky

Quote from: SHARK;1119953Greetings!

Indeed. In places like Communist China, if you run your mouth there too much, in ways the government doesn't approve of--such "activists" simply disappear, often also with their entire families. Vans with men dressed in dark clothes and masks arrive, throw your ass in the van, and you just fucking disappear, and are never heard from or seen again.

There are no lawyers to help you. No "action groups" or "rights groups" that will say a fucking thing about you, or investigate a damned thing. You are fucked. You get tortured, and then chopped up and mixed in with the industrial pig feed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Greetnigs!

Unless of course you have healthy organs, in which case only a part of you is chopped up and fed to pigs.  Other parts of you get to live on...

Omega

Quote from: Jaeger;1119962While we may very well have seen peak tolerance for SJW wokeness, I don't believe for one millisecond that they will go quietly into the night.

The more "get woke - go broke" continues, the more ferocious they will get in advancing their agenda.

SJW's always double down.

Always.

They will also turn on eachother more and more as they run out of "acceptable targets" and those thos were trying to cultivate them as "allies" to weaponize against competition, find themselves on the recieving end of the very weapon they thought they could handle and not get stabbed.

And this is the horrific part.

Its not new. Its not new by at least two prior iterations of this mental disease. I was on the peripery of the artist and comics wars of the 90s and not enough of these scum had their little self made hate groups turn on them. Complete with their own version of Anita Sarkesian on a smaller scale, but with alot more skeletons in the closet.