Quote from: Ocule on February 05, 2022, 02:11:38 PM
I should mention that another player just came to me and begged me not to make him learn any new systems. Which pretty much rules out like 90% of these options Traveller is on my list of shit i need to play though. I've only ever played traveller powered by GURPS funny enough, had a blast with it.

But the systems we are familiar with:

D&D, Savage Worlds, Fuzion/Interlock (From the Witcher PnP), Genesys, and d100 Warhammer 40k

Mongoose Traveller is OK doing cyberpunk, but it sounds like your best option is Cyberpunk 2020 because it is set with the genre and the system really is Fuzion/Interlock at its core. I tried Cyberpunk Red and while there were a lot of good things, there were also a lot of decisions made in that game that I found hard to support (mainly with character creation).

Quote from: Ocule on February 05, 2022, 02:11:38 PM
D&D, Savage Worlds, Fuzion/Interlock (From the Witcher PnP), Genesys, and d100 Warhammer 40k

While not the best option at all.

Have a glance at the old Polyhedron setting article for d20m called DeathNet.
About players trapped in a Multi-setting VR world. It has some netrunning aspects and gives just enough to possibly build a cyberpunk setting off of. Not

Failing that there was the d20m Cyberpunk book. I think I have it. But not sure. If not one of my players may.

And failing all that if you must scrape the bottom of the barrel theres d20m Gamma World. Its far more cyberpunk than post apoc. Just junk the d20mGW rules and pull from the books the cybernetics, biotech and nanotech rules.

Quote from: Ocule on February 05, 2022, 06:33:19 PM

Quote from: Batjon on February 05, 2022, 05:59:47 PM

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Lowlife 2090 looks woke to me. I was gonna ask you what kind of cyber genre you were going for? And if you had read fiction already from a certain genre. I'm used to playing cybernetics the way it is shown in Star Wars. It looks like you're going the cyberpunk route, like in Blade Runner.

There is literally NOTHING woke in LowLife 2090.  I know the author and he is on a Discord channel for a YouTube game review channel that I'm on and he is an amazingly awesome guy. 

LowLife 2090 is simply the best game mentioned in this thread and I own I think every single one mentioned herein.

Good to know, though the art does seem a bit cartoony for what it's going for at least from what is. I dont have enough data left to watch the author, what's good about Lowlife 2090?

Here is a video from Mr. Mean Reviews YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rBcURf15B8&t=3s&ab_channel=Mr.MeanSpeaks%21

The Tablestop Monestary interviews the creator of the game, Steve Grodd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG1oylFKEWI&t=2103s&ab_channel=Mildra

Mr. Mean Reviews live playtest Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIoFzbrJT6M&t=6764s&ab_channel=Mr.MeanSpeaks%21

Lowlife 2090 seems good, havent had the chance to play it yet though, and solid. I gotta say though that I have nothing bad to say about its art, but that is art different people have different opinions about it.

Someone even put up the Shadowrun races for it if you wish to use it for that.

Also if you aren't against PbtA games, and can handle a bit of this modern talk about respecting everything, then The Veil from Samjoko Publishing is really good.

If you want to go 5th edition D&D then there are multiple options like Genefunk 2090, Carbon 2185 (which is the deal of the day at DriveThru at the time of this writing)and Ultramodern5 Redux to name a few.

OSR systems the aforementioned Neonblood seems good.

Another d20 based one with a rules light approach and another one I happen to like os Altered State for ICrpg.

Another good one is Fragged Cyberpunk, based on the system of Fragged Empire (and set in the past of this setting). It has solid crunch in it's rules and combat which can be ran either with figures or not (personally it has a simplified set of rules for theatre of the mind but I would ignore those and use the more tactical ones whether or not using figures). The parent game is getting a 2nd editions sometimes soon though. The current 1st edition is now available real cheap from DriveThruRPG.

Also if one would want one could easily use Mage the Ascension, or now M20, to run a Cyberpunk game if going full Technocracy with it.

And finally Fate Core, or Accelerated/Condensed, can run pretty much anything and has most genres represented by one or more actual books as well. Like Mindjammer (though that is more scifi spaceopera than Cyberpunk).

Of course which game you choose is about your personal preference and which kind of rules do you prefer rules light like The Veil or medium crunch like the Fragged Cyberpunk. Personally I loved Cyberpunk 2020 back in the 90's and do have it my digital library and I left out of my list the options for Savage Worlds since they were covered by others. I should propably mention that here is an official Altered Carbon rpg out there but I have no knowledge of it outside of its kickstarter page as I couldn't back that one up.

Choose the one you like all of the above (and those previously mentioned by others) are amazing games.

Where can I find the Shadowrun races for LowLife 2090, please?

Quote from: soundchaser on February 04, 2022, 11:36:31 PM
Cyberpunk Red for us. Tweak with a few houserules to deal with the few things mentioned.

Quote from: Dropbear on February 05, 2022, 03:39:56 PM
For all my misgivings about Hit Points (which I renamed Vitality) and shotguns (which I replaced with somebody's house rules), it played very smoothly. My players weren't super fond of the economy as it is set up, which makes everyone depend on knowing a fixer ot a techie to get the more valuable and/or useful equipment, though. Which is a part of it that I liked, lol. "The street finds its own use for things" isn't a motto they wanted to live by.

I'm planning on running a short  session or two of CPRed - and seeing as I don't feel a need to reinvent the wheel...

Links or maybe a cut and paste of the house rules?

I'd appreciate it.

And wow... That skill list needs a trim!

Quote from: Batjon on February 06, 2022, 12:13:54 PM
Where can I find the Shadowrun races for LowLife 2090, please?

Shared on the LL2090 Discord

Quote from: Skroxious on February 06, 2022, 09:29:05 PM

Quote from: Batjon on February 06, 2022, 12:13:54 PM
Where can I find the Shadowrun races for LowLife 2090, please?

Shared on the LL2090 Discord

I was able to grab it there, ty.

Quote from: Batjon on February 06, 2022, 08:47:26 AM
Mr. Mean Reviews live playtest Video:

That player in the top-middle, I think, spoke only once during the 2-hour game.

Avoid Interface Zero like the plague. Not only is the author unable to complete the game ever, but there's a whole bunch of broken rules in there thanks to constant unnecessary revision. Plus excessive bloat added over the last two years.

Zaibatsu and Neon Blood seem like good choices. Lowlife seems interesting too!

Quote from: mudbanks on February 08, 2022, 09:13:36 PM
Avoid Interface Zero like the plague. Not only is the author unable to complete the game ever, but there's a whole bunch of broken rules in there thanks to constant unnecessary revision. Plus excessive bloat added over the last two years.

You have any examples of the broken rules? I'm not worried about a game not being "complete" as no game is really complete until the GM says so.

The android race was the first example that stood out. It's supposed to be vulnerable to EMP damage, but EMP isn't in the game.

Wealth was also broken in that you could run around with big fragging guns and implants at Novice rank. I think they changed starting wealth so that might have fixed it, but when I last played it, PCs were running around with 12 Toughness and anti-materiel rifles.

Hacking has always been a bloated mess but it got worse after the last few updates where you could use modular rules to adapt it to your liking, except they don't work because an Edge from a modular rule would require another modular rule to be used. There are also Hacking actions that require Hacking specializations that are not included in the rules.

There's probably more in there but I really don't want to go back to it 

Since no one else has gone there...

Real Life

It wasn't originally a cyberpunk game, but elements have been creeping into updates for decades now. It's a less glitzy take on the genre, granted, but all the core elements are there: megacorps, surveillance state, everyone constantly plugged into the net, etc. The rules are confusing at first but it's pretty immersive once you get used to them.

One problem is the metaplot: it's is pretty confusing, and different sourcebook contradict each other about what exactly is going on.

If you like BoL/Everywhen there's Neonpunk Crysis as an option.

Found something called HexGen on my computer. Some sort of cyberpunk RPG. But the mechanics to me are just meh.