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D&D lawsuit: The new TSR declares bankruptcy, pausing court case

Started by mikelaff, June 14, 2023, 10:25:30 AM

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mikelaff

June 14, 2023, 10:25:30 AM
Thought this might be of interest here -

Link to the Polygon story

Link the ENWorld story

Short summary: NuTSR has filed for chapter 7 - which involves liquidation of their assets. This has triggered an automatic pause in the legal proceedings with WOTC

Jam The MF

#1
June 15, 2023, 02:43:12 PM
Dang.  TSR goes under, again.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

GhostNinja

#2
June 15, 2023, 03:08:45 PM
This TSR was filled with scumbags.  No loss.
Ghostninja

GeekyBugle

#3
June 15, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
Is the brand worth anything at this point?
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Chris24601

#4
June 15, 2023, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 15, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
Is the brand worth anything at this point?
The value of any brand is only as good as its products. Original TSR's name had value because it had products people wanted to buy. This one, near as I can tell, never even really got a single project off the ground and so what pretty much worthless.

Omega

#5
June 15, 2023, 06:15:51 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 15, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
Is the brand worth anything at this point?

Bemusingly TRS is still puttering along some 23 years later putting out Dragon Dice they rescued from wotc just pitching it all into the garbage.
 
TSwhateveR barely had any product and what they did have someone fucked up completely and they still have not recovered from that. Then going into a lawsuit? This was inevitable.

BoxCrayonTales

#6
June 15, 2023, 07:04:20 PM
WotC owns a ton of TSR IPs they're letting rot in copyright limbo. Star Frontiers, Gamma World, Star*Drive, Dark•Matter, Urban Arcana, etc. Even if tabletop is a dead market, they can still mine those for crpgs.

Gawd, I hate weak antitrust laws and overly long copyright terms.

Exploderwizard

#7
June 16, 2023, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Chris24601 on June 15, 2023, 05:06:09 PM

The value of any brand is only as good as its products. Original TSR's name had value because it had products people wanted to buy. This one, near as I can tell, never even really got a single project off the ground and so what pretty much worthless.

I kind of liked Gygax Magazine, what few issues there were.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Orphan81

#8
June 16, 2023, 10:27:45 AM
And nothing of value was lost.
1. Some of you culture warriors are so committed to the bit you'll throw out any nuance or common sense in fear it's 'giving in' to the other side.

2. I'm a married homeowner with a career and a child. I won life. You can't insult me.

3. I work in a Prison, your tough guy act is boring.

Theory of Games

#9
June 16, 2023, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on June 16, 2023, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Chris24601 on June 15, 2023, 05:06:09 PM

The value of any brand is only as good as its products. Original TSR's name had value because it had products people wanted to buy. This one, near as I can tell, never even really got a single project off the ground and so what pretty much worthless.

I kind of liked Gygax Magazine, what few issues there were.
It was good, right? So many interesting articles. Sad that it couldn't be sustained.
TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

VisionStorm

#10
June 16, 2023, 01:15:01 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on June 15, 2023, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 15, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
Is the brand worth anything at this point?
The value of any brand is only as good as its products. Original TSR's name had value because it had products people wanted to buy. This one, near as I can tell, never even really got a single project off the ground and so what pretty much worthless.

Exactly. I started to lose sympathy for NuTSR the moment they started focusing on wrestling the TSR brand from WotC in lieu of producing anything.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on June 15, 2023, 07:04:20 PM
WotC owns a ton of TSR IPs they're letting rot in copyright limbo. Star Frontiers, Gamma World, Star*Drive, Dark•Matter, Urban Arcana, etc. Even if tabletop is a dead market, they can still mine those for crpgs.

Gawd, I hate weak antitrust laws and overly long copyright terms.

All those game settings will be lost in time like tears in rain...

Quote from: Orphan81 on June 16, 2023, 10:27:45 AM
And nothing of value was lost.

Other than the time devoted to discussing this dumpster fire of a company. Yay, us!

S'mon

#11
June 17, 2023, 03:33:35 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on June 16, 2023, 08:58:27 AM
I kind of liked Gygax Magazine, what few issues there were.

That was the second TSR not this one, right?
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Exploderwizard

#12
June 19, 2023, 07:52:39 AM
Quote from: S'mon on June 17, 2023, 03:33:35 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard on June 16, 2023, 08:58:27 AM
I kind of liked Gygax Magazine, what few issues there were.

That was the second TSR not this one, right?

Heck I wasn't aware that there were three! It was the one Luke Gygax was involved in.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Reckall

#13
June 20, 2023, 05:19:47 AM
Quote from: Chris24601 on June 15, 2023, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 15, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
Is the brand worth anything at this point?
The value of any brand is only as good as its products.
This is a lesson that Hasrbro/WotC haven't learned.
For every idiot who denounces Ayn Rand as "intellectualism" there is an excellent DM who creates a "Bioshock" adventure.

THE_Leopold

#14
June 20, 2023, 12:36:57 PM
When is the asset fire sale so I can buy everything for pennies on the dollar.
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